Need help from practiced people!

Sazhman

Hello friends! I've smoked many cigars, straight from cigar store "big room" humidors , but I never had a cigar humidor myself, and this is the first time. I bought 20 cigars from cigar.com and humidor, but the thing is they were lying 3 months in my friends house, though he seasoned the humidor, it became 74% and put the cigars in it. After a 20 days, humidity droped to 60%, hi did it again, it came back to 70%. In short, I received the cigars, and humidity inside was 56% and it was like that 30 days. Fortunately nothing bad happened, the cold weather saved the cigars, they just got hard, like a rubber, but wrappers look beautiful, smells perfect and nothing is crucked. In one old local thread, people said, you should not put cigars immediately into seasoned 70-65% humidor, but rise 5% every week up to 70%, or cigars will burst because filler absorb humidity faster then wrapper. So whats your choice, rise slowly or go straight, since I dont have Chrystal humidifer, I have Green Foam humidifier, so I cant imagine how to rise humidity 5% with it.????? Inventory is Desktop Humidor Analog and Digital Hygrometers Green Foam Humidifier Thanky you Artur

Lee.mcglynn

What kind of hugrometer are you using and what kind of humidifier are. You using?

Sazhman

Lee.mcglynn

Get a new humidifier! Get the xikar gel for now and calibrate your hygrometers

Lee.mcglynn

If you have a 50ct humidor buy a humidifier for 100ct and don't go cheap! The winter months are killer for new guys with humidors since rh is hard to keep! Also it really helps the have your humidor at leat 75% full of cigars

Sazhman

Ok, but what it has to do with it?.. Problems is my friend did seasoning incorrect and thats why it is 56% now, I did a test and it works fine.

Lee.mcglynn

Winter the air rh is low and wood humidors are made to breathe...the air is much drier these monthes and will suck the moister right out of the wood. If it keeps up like this I recommend reseason ing the humidor. It also depends how he seasoned it....how long did it take him?

Sazhman

I agree with you. He wiped inside with new sponge 3 times every 30min using distilled water, then he put plastic bag inside of humidor, the sponge on it, and let it for 24 hours. Then he prepared humidifier, 2min. in distilled water, then cleaned outside water from it and let the humidifier for 20min to soak in the water. It was done 2 months ago. 6 hours ago, I wiped inside 1 time, and now its 63% inside without Humidifier.

Lee.mcglynn

I hate to say this but you are going to have to reseason the humidor! It should take atleast a few days to season unless you have a active humidifier. Use the search tool on this forum and you should find a lot of threads on seasoning your humidor

Sazhman

Friend, it does not bother me to reseason it, but I saw in forums of cigar.com, that if cigars were lying in 56% for a month, you dont want to put them immediately into seasoned 70% humidor but rise 5% every week, or cigar will burst because filler absorb humidity faster then wrapper, and as I know, right seasoned humidors should be around 70%. What you think about that, which way I should choose?

Lee.mcglynn

Personally I'd reseason the humidor...once you get it stable put your cigars in a normal ziplock sandwich bag seal it will as little air in it and put it in your humidor for a few weeks. Normal ziplock bags are not air tight so the humidity will slowly bring them up. Also I would buy a xikar hygrometer! Much more accurate and dependable. While you reseason the humi store cigars in a airtight container and put a boveda 65 in with them and leave the cello on...you should be good

Sazhman

Thank you. So you're saying, cigars with celophane + inside ziplock bag will not be problem for humidity to penetrate into cigars?? Ans what humidity level would you suggest to keep after seasoning, 70% , 75%??

danielzreyes

Sazhman:

Thank you. So you're saying, cigars with celophane + inside ziplock bag will not be problem for humidity to penetrate into cigars?? Ans what humidity level would you suggest, 70% , 75%??

No, and most would recommend rh at 65-70. I personally keep mine 60-65. I hope everything works out for you.

Sazhman

Ok thanks. Now inside is 62% and my all cigars are wrapped in celophane, would you recommend to keep it that way without ziplock and after a week raise humidity to 65% ??

phishstyx

I would put them in a tupperdor with Boveda for a few weeks while you get the Humidor corrected.

Lee.mcglynn

Sazhman:

Ok thanks. Now inside is 62% and my all cigars are wrapped in celophane, would you recommend to keep it that way without ziplock and after a week raise humidity to 65% ??

IMO 62 isn't bad! I actually have bought the same hygrometer you are using and it's pretty far off! I calibrated it but it is not a good one. Once again I suggest spending the money on a xikar! There are too many variables that can mess with a reading. My one opus humi is at 65-63 and the hygro it came with reads 50 and lower. Temps really play a big part on your readings!

avengethis

Sazhman

Lee.mcglynn:

IMO 62 isn't bad! I actually have bought the same hygrometer you are using and it's pretty far off! I calibrated it but it is not a good one. Once again I suggest spending the money on a xikar! There are too many variables that can mess with a reading. My one opus humi is at 65-63 and the hygro it came with reads 50 and lower. Temps really play a big part on your readings!

Unfortunately, Im not in states and will take 20+ days for XIKAr to arrive, but I will order one, thank you. I never thought that digital ones may show wrong numbers and should be calibrated to.

Lee.mcglynn

Yeah man not all products are the same. It sucks but it's something we all learn down the road

Hays

Ken Light

Sazhman:

Ok thanks. Now inside is 62% and my all cigars are wrapped in celophane, would you recommend to keep it that way without ziplock and after a week raise humidity to 65% ??

62's not bad for the winter. Give it a day to make sure it's stable, but then just put the sticks in the box. It'll fluctuate when you do, probably even drop since the cigars need humidity, but it should stabilize in a day or so. BTW cellophane makes little to no difference in terms of humidifying the cigars, the cello breathes.

Sazhman

Lee.mcglynn:

Yeah man not all products are the same. It sucks but it's something we all learn down the road

Hi again! Right, I did a salt 75% RH test with ZIPlock bag. After 6 hours it was 74% and not moving, I waited 3hours more and it was still 74%, so I guess we can say it is -1.

Sazhman