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  • Ken LightKen Light Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,524
    90+ Irishman:
    matkn293:
    You have to be extremely careful with some of the newer bourbons on the market. A good deal of them are not distilled by the people bottling them at all. Some by bulk blends from a main distillery (there is a rather large one in Indiana) and the package it with a fancy label.
    I've read that in several different blogs and sites, sad to hear and that's too bad but thanks for the heads up. Oh and congrats on 1K posts Matkn!!!
    The place is called LDI, owned by MGP. Rye is actually a bigger culprit than bourbon right now because it's hot and hard to make well. Even some distillers only bottle LDI rye. That's not to say there aren't lots of bullsh!t bourbons with lots of bullsh!t stories on their bottles. Some bottlers make tweaks, like casking (Angel's Envy) but a lot are pure marketing.
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    Ken Light:
    90+ Irishman:
    matkn293:
    You have to be extremely careful with some of the newer bourbons on the market. A good deal of them are not distilled by the people bottling them at all. Some by bulk blends from a main distillery (there is a rather large one in Indiana) and the package it with a fancy label.
    I've read that in several different blogs and sites, sad to hear and that's too bad but thanks for the heads up. Oh and congrats on 1K posts Matkn!!!
    The place is called LDI, owned by MGP. Rye is actually a bigger culprit than bourbon right now because it's hot and hard to make well. Even some distillers only bottle LDI rye. That's not to say there aren't lots of bullsh!t bourbons with lots of bullsh!t stories on their bottles. Some bottlers make tweaks, like casking (Angel's Envy) but a lot are pure marketing.
    Yeah that's a damn shame but sadly not that surprising especially when you consider how much it happens in so many other markets as well. Case in point is the cigar industry as well. Tons of that behavior going on in many companies and manufacturers
  • Gray4linesGray4lines Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,439
    90+ Irishman:
    Ken Light:
    90+ Irishman:
    matkn293:
    You have to be extremely careful with some of the newer bourbons on the market. A good deal of them are not distilled by the people bottling them at all. Some by bulk blends from a main distillery (there is a rather large one in Indiana) and the package it with a fancy label.
    I've read that in several different blogs and sites, sad to hear and that's too bad but thanks for the heads up. Oh and congrats on 1K posts Matkn!!!
    The place is called LDI, owned by MGP. Rye is actually a bigger culprit than bourbon right now because it's hot and hard to make well. Even some distillers only bottle LDI rye. That's not to say there aren't lots of bullsh!t bourbons with lots of bullsh!t stories on their bottles. Some bottlers make tweaks, like casking (Angel's Envy) but a lot are pure marketing.
    Yeah that's a damn shame but sadly not that surprising especially when you consider how much it happens in so many other markets as well. Case in point is the cigar industry as well. Tons of that behavior going on in many companies and manufacturers
    It's kinda sad how many of these "small" boubon (and cigar too, I bet) companies are just an arm of the same corporation. I guess from manufacturing stance, it makes sense, but I really hate to see stuff like one company producing a ton of rye and it getting basically re-labeled as "small batch" and artisanal. You're right, Ken, just bullsh!t. Oh well, I guess if it tastes good, then drink it, and don't pay for the story.
  • D FreshD Fresh Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 558
    Midwest Grain Products Ingredients (MGPI), Lawrenceburg, IN. Formerly Lawrenceburg Distillers Indiana (LDI) and before that owned by the now dissolved Seagram's company, this large distillery near the Kentucky border makes bourbon, rye, corn, wheat and malt whiskeys as well as gin and neutral spirits. While they don't market any of their own whiskey, the distillery makes whiskey for a growing number of other labels. It's hard to always tell which companies are using MGP as their source, but the following is a listing of whiskeys that are likely distilled by MGP:

    31 N 50 Bourbon (Dry Diggings)
    4 Spirits Bourbon (4 Spirits)
    1888 Bourbon (Diversa Brands)
    99 Bottles Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
    Angel's Envy Rye (Louisville Distilling Co.)
    Backbone Bourbon (Crossroads Vitners/Strong Spirits)
    Belle Meade Bourbon (Nelson's Greenbriar)
    Big Ass Bourbon (Strong Spirits)
    Big Bottom Bourbon (Big Bottom)
    Big House Bourbon (Underdog Spirits)
    Big Y Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
    Bone Snapper Rye (Strong Spirits)
    Breaker Bourbon (Ascendant Spirits)
    Bulleit Rye (Diageo)
    Chattanooga Whiskey 1816 Reserve (Chattanooga Whiskey Co.)
    Clarion Bourbon and Blended Whiskey (Distilled Spirits Epicenter)
    Cleveland Rye Whiskey (Cleveland Whiskey)
    Coney Island Carlo Bourbon (Terresentia)
    Copper City Straight Bourbon (Arizona Distilling Co.)
    Corn Star Corn Whiskey (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
    Cotton Hollow Rye (Cotton Hollow/Strong Spirits)
    Cougar Bourbon & Rye (Foster's)
    Defiance Whiskey (Crown Valley Distilling)
    Filibuster Rye (M.S. Trading LP)
    George Dickel Rye (George Dickel)
    George Remus Bourbon & Rye (Queen City Whiskey/Strong Spirits)
    Henderson Rye (North Texas Distillers)
    High Liquors Bourbon & Rye (High Liquors)
    High West (an an element of many of their whiskeys blends)
    Homestead Bourbon (Homestead American whiskey)
    Hooker's House (some of their bourbons and their rye; Prohibition Spirits)
    J. Green Bourbon and Rye (Shadow Beverage Group)
    James E. Pepper 1776 Rye (James E. Pepper/Strong Spirits)
    J.R. Revelry Bourbon (La Bodega Internacional/Speakeasy Spirits)
    Knotter Bourbon & Rye (Blaum Bros.)
    LeMont Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
    Mosswood American Light Whiskey (Mosswood Distillers)
    O.K.I. Bourbon and Rye (New Riff Distilling)
    Pinhook Bourbon (CJS Beverage Corp.)
    Prichard's Rye (Prichard's)
    Redemption Bourbon & Rye (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
    Riverboat Rye (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
    Rough Rider Bourbon & Rye (Long Island Spirits)
    Seagram's 7 Blended Whiskey (Diageo)
    Single Track Rye (Range and River Distilling)
    Smokin' Joe's Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
    Smooth Ambler Old Scout Bourbon, Rye and Corn Whiskey (Smooth Ambler)
    Smuggler's Notch Rye
    Spirit of America Bourbon (Hobson & Roberts)
    Spring Mill Bourbon (Heartland Distillers)
    Taos Lightning (KGB Spirits)
    Temperance Trader (Bull Run Distilling)
    Templeton Rye (Templeton)
    Temptation Bourbon (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
    The Saloon Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
    Tin Cup Whiskey (Proximo Spirits)
    Troubadour Bourbon (The Original Texas Legend Distillery)
    WH Harrison Bourbon (Tipton Spirits)
    Widow Jane Rye (Cacao Prieto)
    Willett Rye (Indiana ryes)
    Winghart's Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
  • Gray4linesGray4lines Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,439
    I'm going to copy that post to the bourbon thread in NCR, if that's ok. Good info.
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    Gray4lines:
    I'm going to copy that post to the bourbon thread in NCR, if that's ok. Good info.
    Perfect! Thanks for doing that Gray and really appreciate the info Doug, there's 3 or 4 on that list that I have personally had and really really enjoyed but that was definitely an eye opener, there's also a few in that list I've wanted to try but now I'm not quite so sure dunno whether to be a bit concerned or not.
  • matkn293matkn293 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,277
    90+ Irishman:
    matkn293:
    You have to be extremely careful with some of the newer bourbons on the market. A good deal of them are not distilled by the people bottling them at all. Some by bulk blends from a main distillery (there is a rather large one in Indiana) and the package it with a fancy label.
    I've read that in several different blogs and sites, sad to hear and that's too bad but thanks for the heads up. Oh and congrats on 1K posts Matkn!!!
    Why thank you Mr. Irish.
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    matkn293:
    90+ Irishman:
    matkn293:
    You have to be extremely careful with some of the newer bourbons on the market. A good deal of them are not distilled by the people bottling them at all. Some by bulk blends from a main distillery (there is a rather large one in Indiana) and the package it with a fancy label.
    I've read that in several different blogs and sites, sad to hear and that's too bad but thanks for the heads up. Oh and congrats on 1K posts Matkn!!!
    Why thank you Mr. Irish.
    Nothing to thanks brother, but I ain't no Mr. lol I am for too obnoxious and young to be a Mr.
  • twistedstemtwistedstem Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,691
    Got a bottle of Sandman Tawney Port.its my 2nd favorite port!
  • The KidThe Kid Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,842
    No acquisitions today,,,,:O(,,,,,,sigh
  • rsherman24rsherman24 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,711
    twistedstem:
    Got a bottle of Sandman Tawney Port.its my 2nd favorite port!

    What is your first? I like port this time of year and really like the Sandman
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    rsherman24:
    twistedstem:
    Got a bottle of Sandman Tawney Port.its my 2nd favorite port!

    What is your first? I like port this time of year and really like the Sandman
    I haven't had port very often but I've tried the Sandman offerings each time and really like them.
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    Ken lit me up good! Thanks again man really appreciate it!

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  • Ken LightKen Light Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,524
    90+ Irishman:
    Ken lit me up good! Thanks again man really appreciate it!

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    Really glad it all arrived safely!! I could hear the box go glug-glug from the liquid when I moved it a certain way so I was worried about USPS lol
  • The KidThe Kid Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,842
    Just secured two more bottles....I know I know, I have a problem!! haha
    Barterhouse 20 and a bottle of Rock Hill Farms, both of which are extremely htf in WA.
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    I've heard the Rock Hills Farm is outstanding so let me know what you think! Hope the Barterhouse works out well for ya. Love to hear about both. and I don't think you have a problem any more than the rest of us do.... Wait that doesn't say much does it? Crap... Uh I will get back to you in that ;)
  • The KidThe Kid Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,842
    90+ Irishman:
    I've heard the Rock Hills Farm is outstanding so let me know what you think! Hope the Barterhouse works out well for ya. Love to hear about both. and I don't think you have a problem any more than the rest of us do.... Wait that doesn't say much does it? Crap... Uh I will get back to you in that ;)
    Yea looking forward to trying Diageo's orphan stuff. I know its received some mixed reviews but reviews only go so far. I want to see for myself.
    http://barreljuice.com/2014/05/09/review-barterhouse-20-year-bourbon/
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    The Kid:
    Just secured two more bottles....I know I know, I have a problem!! haha
    Barterhouse 20 and a bottle of Rock Hill Farms, both of which are extremely htf in WA.
    Rudy I figured it out. We don't have a problem at all, we have both proven that we don't have any problem whatsoever buying whiskey :D Case in point I picked up this today, wheated bourbon that the whiskey specialist at my store (they specialize in wine and whiskey of all types) was really pushing hard. Was same price as Buffalo Trace, W.L. Weller Reserve, Larceny and a few bucks cheaper than Old Grand Dad 114. Hope it lives up the the hype they were saying.

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  • amz1301amz1301 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,287
    The Kid:
    90+ Irishman:
    I've heard the Rock Hills Farm is outstanding so let me know what you think! Hope the Barterhouse works out well for ya. Love to hear about both. and I don't think you have a problem any more than the rest of us do.... Wait that doesn't say much does it? Crap... Uh I will get back to you in that ;)
    Yea looking forward to trying Diageo's orphan stuff. I know its received some mixed reviews but reviews only go so far. I want to see for myself.
    http://barreljuice.com/2014/05/09/review-barterhouse-20-year-bourbon/
    yep, you've gotta problem, lol. Saw Barterhouse and Rhetoric the other day. Curious if there worth the coin. Rock Hills too.
  • The KidThe Kid Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,842
    90+ Irishman:
    The Kid:
    Just secured two more bottles....I know I know, I have a problem!! haha
    Barterhouse 20 and a bottle of Rock Hill Farms, both of which are extremely htf in WA.
    Rudy I figured it out. We don't have a problem at all, we have both proven that we don't have any problem whatsoever buying whiskey :D Case in point I picked up this today, wheated bourbon that the whiskey specialist at my store (they specialize in wine and whiskey of all types) was really pushing hard. Was same price as Buffalo Trace, W.L. Weller Reserve, Larceny and a few bucks cheaper than Old Grand Dad 114. Hope it lives up the the hype they were saying.

    Haha, yup.. From what Ive read a while back that is a goodun. I haven't ever ran across a bottle though, Have come across the larceny! Let us know your thoughts.
    amz1301:
    yep, you've gotta problem, lol. Saw Barterhouse and Rhetoric the other day. Curious if there worth the coin. Rock Hills too.
    I would say for sure the Rock Hill Farms, The Barterhouse probably not a value pickup but cant win em all!!! I sure do try though!!!;o)
  • The KidThe Kid Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,842
    Curious anyone ever try Hirsch small batch reserve, its like 33 bucks, Not buying just want to hear from someone here.
  • The KidThe Kid Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,842
  • Glock1975Glock1975 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,372
    image Thought this would be a better spot for this.
  • ddubridgeddubridge Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,949
    Glock1975:
    image Thought this would be a better spot for this.
    You did say you lived in driving distance, right?
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    ddubridge:
    Glock1975:
    image Thought this would be a better spot for this.
    You did say you lived in driving distance, right?
    BWAHAHAHAHAH nice Drew :D
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    The Kid:
    A case of this , if you haven't tried it give it a shot,,hahaha
    http://www.drinkhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/real-russian-vodka.jpg
    Very nice, read good things about that Rudy let us know how it goes.
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    The Kid:
    Curious anyone ever try Hirsch small batch reserve, its like 33 bucks, Not buying just want to hear from someone here.
    No but I keep seeing that bottle at my whiskey store. I could swear I heard it was sourced but I might be totally wrong and mixed up on that.
  • Gray4linesGray4lines Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,439
    Glock1975:
    image Thought this would be a better spot for this.
    Nice!
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    I love how this thread days after being made is already to nearly 13 pages :D
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