Article from Vancouver Sun today. RE: Man Cave

TheShaun

YankeeMan

Matt Marvel

It's ridiculous that they had to go this far, but it's a pretty cool idea. I wonder how the lawmakers would feel if we went after something that they enjoy?

phobicsquirrel

Garen B

Matt Marvel:

It's ridiculous that they had to go this far, but it's a pretty cool idea. I wonder how the lawmakers would feel if we went after something that they enjoy?

Well we could try to start a "Giving back to the constituents" program, for every dollar that a lawmaker makes, they take that dollar and give it to a person who is affected by any stupid law that the lawmaker has backed. It's a win-win, the lawmakers are broke, the people that were affected by dumb laws are now a few bucks richer.

Duder2

I can really relate to these guys. It's the same way up here in Seattle, smoking inside any business or within 25 feet of an entrance is illegal. The only smoking establishments around are at casino's on reservations. Of those, I only know of one cigar lounge which is at Snoqualmie. It's a really great place with great people, but at almost an hour from my house I can't get out there very often. I don't see why they can't just allow exceptions for places that are specifically designated for smoking, such as a B&M or a smokers lounge. This ultra liberal state is freakin killing me...

jsnake

bforrester

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans_in_the_United_States#Smoking_laws_of_the_United_States_by_state For your perusal, I would imagine it to be a fairly correct list being publicly generated and all. I live in Pasadena and work in Glendale which both have fairly strict no smoking laws. The amusing part is that there are a few quite popular cigar "lounges" in the areas where the bans are the strongest. None of them are to my liking, but they are still in existence which is the important part. Still quite a few B&M's around as well. We even have a brand new local liquor store which from what I have been told has a decent walk in. I don't disagree with the bans in restaurants and such as I don't want to have to smell nasty cigarette smoke while I am eating. Any indoors area I understand, but I think if people would just learn to be more respectful of other peoples space this would have never been an issue in the first place. I think there is enough room on the beaches for us all (see San Diego). Who has more of a right though, your right to breathe "clean" air or my right to smoke where I want, or could it be my clean air? How are we gonna cover up the new version of a speak easy when it is illegal to be in possession of tobacco?

clearlysuspect

This seems so cool! I want to be part of an underground cigar club. I know this isn't the point, but it just seems like fun with the added risk and excitement. Just as long as prices don't skyrocket.

Hays

clearlysuspect:

This seems so cool! I want to be part of an underground cigar club. I know this isn't the point, but it just seems like fun with the added risk and excitement. Just as long as prices don't skyrocket.

No shi t...sounds pretty rockin to me too! lol

Garen B

bforrester:

Who has more of a right though, your right to breathe "clean" air or my right to smoke where I want, or could it be my clean air?

We live in California though, is our air even clean anymore?

bforrester

Garen B:

bforrester:

Who has more of a right though, your right to breathe "clean" air or my right to smoke where I want, or could it be my clean air?

We live in California though, is our air even clean anymore?

No doubt about that, everytime I leave the state for a few weeks upon returning my lungs are on fire for a few days. Maybe they should be pushing to stop our current forms of transportation from dumping particulates in the air at such a high rate.....oh wait they already are. I guess we will just have to walk to the speakeasy as well, man I hope its gonna be close.

Krieg

Wow, this is actually pretty cool idea.

MAJORdorMo

MarkH

I think Wisconsin still has smoking/non-smoking areas in restaurants. Bars, I'm not sure. Las...?

Smokeee

ejenne87