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  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
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  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    PuroFreak:
    When in the name of f*ck did profit become an evil word? Why is it a crime for a company to succeed???
    it seems so. those who do succeed are forced to give up what they earned through their own hands and minds.
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  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Squirrel, in case you forgot...I just wanted to send a reminder you are always wrong...stop having an opinion or it will be squashed----fall in line like the drones. :)
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    kuzi16:
    PuroFreak:
    When in the name of f*ck did profit become an evil word? Why is it a crime for a company to succeed???
    it seems so. those who do succeed are forced to give up what they earned through their own hands and minds.
    Well my issues with the statement that was made is Phobic said the companies stock went up 117%, but nowhere in that did it say they had done anything illegal or violated anyone's rights at all. If they had done so, then I would say yes, something needs to be done to stop this. If they did not however, then that is success! That is what made this country great. Why is it when a business succeeds it is a bad thing, but when the government fails, financially at least, this is seen as a success? Look at Medicare which you praise and love so much Phobic, and show me one single year since it was created that it did not operate in the red... Then tell me how this is sustainable in the long run.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Kuzi, were you beaten up a lot as a kid?
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Nevermind, just a question I was wondering. Not personal in any way, just curiosity.
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    PuroFreak:
    kuzi16:
    PuroFreak:
    When in the name of f*ck did profit become an evil word? Why is it a crime for a company to succeed???
    it seems so. those who do succeed are forced to give up what they earned through their own hands and minds.
    Well my issues with the statement that was made is Phobic said the companies stock went up 117%, but nowhere in that did it say they had done anything illegal or violated anyone's rights at all. If they had done so, then I would say yes, something needs to be done to stop this. If they did not however, then that is success! That is what made this country great. Why is it when a business succeeds it is a bad thing, but when the government fails, financially at least, this is seen as a success? Look at Medicare which you praise and love so much Phobic, and show me one single year since it was created that it did not operate in the red... Then tell me how this is sustainable in the long run.
    To add to this a bit, private insurance companies like were mentioned earlier create wealth when their stocks go up. If the stocks go up 117% then that is money for investors and anyone who holds stock in the company which helps people who are investing for their retirement and a number of other things, plus it allows this company to expand and create more jobs. On the other hand what does Medicare create??? One thing, DEBT... All medicare creates is debt for our country as a whole. As limited as it is now it runs in the red year after year after year. How is expanding an already failing program a better solution to the health care problems in this country? About the ONLY good thing I can see about the health care legislation being currently debated in congress, is that it cuts medicare.
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Damn double post...
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  • laker1963laker1963 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,046
    The government is doing it's duty then...if it is protecting citizens from insurance company abuse. I have no illusion that we will ever agree on this Puro. I do see your view's and don't disagree with some of them. It is just that we see the solution to the problem as being VERY different. That is not even to say that either would work or would not. Just different solutions to the same problem.
  • mustluvcigarsmustluvcigars Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 686
    laker1963:
    The government is doing it's duty then...if it is protecting citizens from insurance company abuse. I have no illusion that we will ever agree on this Puro. I do see your view's and don't disagree with some of them. It is just that we see the solution to the problem as being VERY different. That is not even to say that either would work or would not. Just different solutions to the same problem.
    no really they are not!!! they are adding to it and they are infringing on my rights to do it. They are going to pass a law that requires me to buy health insurance or pay fine and go to jail, this has to be unconsititional, its absurd, Im all for the government doing something to make health care more affordable, but this is not even close to it. Insurance? this is not addressing the issue of the rising ridicilous ass cost of going to the doctor, this is just passing the buck on who is going to pay for it, Insurance is not health care. We should not being have this discussion this should not be even in the minds of the legislature to do.
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    laker1963:
    The government is doing it's duty then...if it is protecting citizens from insurance company abuse. I have no illusion that we will ever agree on this Puro. I do see your view's and don't disagree with some of them. It is just that we see the solution to the problem as being VERY different. That is not even to say that either would work or would not. Just different solutions to the same problem.
    I agree, but the solution being suggested in a government run health care option violates right of the people. The solutions I mentioned do not. You say the companies are abusing people, but they are not commiting any illegal abuse or even violating their rights in any way, because nobody has the right to medical coverage. These people are not being denied treatment, they are just being denied coverage to pay for this treatment. This health insurance legislation will not save a single life because someone will receive treatment they wouldn't have otherwise received.
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