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  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    Many of those people that would lose jobs due to "Green" legislation against the oil and coal industry are older people who wouldn't be considered for jobs in alternative energy fields because they aren't as "tech savy" as younger college educated applicants.
    That's capitalism
    HAHA No it is NOT! If jobs are lost due to the Government taking those jobs and companies away, that is NOT a true Capitalist Free Maket at all.
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    PuroFreak:
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    Many of those people that would lose jobs due to "Green" legislation against the oil and coal industry are older people who wouldn't be considered for jobs in alternative energy fields because they aren't as "tech savy" as younger college educated applicants.
    That's capitalism
    HAHA No it is NOT! If jobs are lost due to the Government taking those jobs and companies away, that is NOT a true Capitalist Free Maket at all.
    Sure it is.. you're now confusing capitalism with anarchy.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    Many of those people that would lose jobs due to "Green" legislation against the oil and coal industry are older people who wouldn't be considered for jobs in alternative energy fields because they aren't as "tech savy" as younger college educated applicants.
    That's capitalism
    HAHA No it is NOT! If jobs are lost due to the Government taking those jobs and companies away, that is NOT a true Capitalist Free Maket at all.
    Sure it is.. you're now confusing capitalism with anarchy.
    you are confusing capitalism with government control. anarchy has no system. Capitalism does. you just want the government to tell everyone how to live. I dont.
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    kuzi16:
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    Many of those people that would lose jobs due to "Green" legislation against the oil and coal industry are older people who wouldn't be considered for jobs in alternative energy fields because they aren't as "tech savy" as younger college educated applicants.
    That's capitalism
    HAHA No it is NOT! If jobs are lost due to the Government taking those jobs and companies away, that is NOT a true Capitalist Free Maket at all.
    Sure it is.. you're now confusing capitalism with anarchy.
    you are confusing capitalism with government control. anarchy has no system. Capitalism does. you just want the government to tell everyone how to live. I dont.
    I never said government control was inherently capitalist.. However, I am saying that capitalism is a system for running a market within the constraints of its government, and as a contributing (funding) member of that system
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  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    and that government was put in place by the people that participate in that free market. Through their vote, they have made clear their intention to improve the environment, and put people in office who will make this happen. Relying on individuals to do this always fails, because people think that their drop in the bucket won't make a difference one way or the other. That's where the government comes in. We elect a government which makes and enforces rules. If we don't like the rules, we install a new government. We, the people, have decided it will be so.
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    kuzi16:
    i really am gunna stop posting on this thread today.
    Kuzi said he was going to stop posting to this thread... and then he has gone on posting. Just like a politician.
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  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    dutyje:
    and that government was put in place by the people that participate in that free market. Through their vote, they have made clear their intention to improve the environment, and put people in office who will make this happen. Relying on individuals to do this always fails, because people think that their drop in the bucket won't make a difference one way or the other. That's where the government comes in. We elect a government which makes and enforces rules. If we don't like the rules, we install a new government. We, the people, have decided it will be so.
    But by definition, it is not a true capitalist market if that takes place. Those lost jobs are because of the government. No matter who puts that government in power.
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    PuroFreak:
    dutyje:
    and that government was put in place by the people that participate in that free market. Through their vote, they have made clear their intention to improve the environment, and put people in office who will make this happen. Relying on individuals to do this always fails, because people think that their drop in the bucket won't make a difference one way or the other. That's where the government comes in. We elect a government which makes and enforces rules. If we don't like the rules, we install a new government. We, the people, have decided it will be so.
    But by definition, it is not a true capitalist market if that takes place. Those lost jobs are because of the government. No matter who puts that government in power.
    again.. your version of "capitalism" would necessitate anarchy
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    dutyje:
    and that government was put in place by the people that participate in that free market. Through their vote, they have made clear their intention to improve the environment, and put people in office who will make this happen. Relying on individuals to do this always fails, because people think that their drop in the bucket won't make a difference one way or the other. That's where the government comes in. We elect a government which makes and enforces rules. If we don't like the rules, we install a new government. We, the people, have decided it will be so.
    But by definition, it is not a true capitalist market if that takes place. Those lost jobs are because of the government. No matter who puts that government in power.
    again.. your version of "capitalism" would necessitate anarchy
    No sir, I believe in rules and laws, as you know that is kind of key in my profession, but I don't believe in Government taking legal jobs from law abiding citizens under bogus banner of "Saving our Planet." My version of capitalism is not anywhere near anarchy. You are just using that word to make me sound like an extremist.
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