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  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
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  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    Read my lips... NO NEW TAXES!!!
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    dutyje:
    Read my lips... NO NEW TAXES!!!
    His statement was the same way. It was what people wanted to hear at the time. He is a politician... No different. I disagreed with that just like I do now. I don't follow party lines. If someone from either party does something I don't agree with, I call them on it. There are several things both G.W. Bush and G. H. Bush did that I think were very wrong. I have no problem admiting that.
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    I agree.. I'm just hoping we can get on with our argument accepting that we're dealing with a bunch of politicians, and that we all understand how they operate. Nobody here is going to claim that Barack Obama is not a good politician. (good in the sense that he achieves his objectives in advancing his career in politics.. not necessarily good in the sense that he produces the results that make people happy... there is no such politician)
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    I agree he is a good politician partially. He also has the media on his side so that helps a lot. I do not believe his policies will work and I do believe he will prolong our current ecconomic problems rather than correct them.
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    PuroFreak:
    I agree he is a good politician partially. He also has the media on his side so that helps a lot. I do not believe his policies will work and I do believe he will prolong our current ecconomic problems rather than correct them.
    But part of being a good politician is getting the media on your side. If his policies won't work, then he'll only make a bad situation worse. If it gets worse, we'll utterly collapse. Let's measure on that.
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    I agree he is a good politician partially. He also has the media on his side so that helps a lot. I do not believe his policies will work and I do believe he will prolong our current ecconomic problems rather than correct them.
    But part of being a good politician is getting the media on your side. If his policies won't work, then he'll only make a bad situation worse. If it gets worse, we'll utterly collapse. Let's measure on that.
    Actually, getting the media on your side doesn't mean you are a good politician, it just means you are a liberal... that is just the way it is in today's mainstream media.
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    PuroFreak:
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    I agree he is a good politician partially. He also has the media on his side so that helps a lot. I do not believe his policies will work and I do believe he will prolong our current ecconomic problems rather than correct them.
    But part of being a good politician is getting the media on your side. If his policies won't work, then he'll only make a bad situation worse. If it gets worse, we'll utterly collapse. Let's measure on that.
    Actually, getting the media on your side doesn't mean you are a good politician, it just means you are a liberal... that is just the way it is in today's mainstream media.
    Well, then the liberals are better politicians
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    I agree he is a good politician partially. He also has the media on his side so that helps a lot. I do not believe his policies will work and I do believe he will prolong our current ecconomic problems rather than correct them.
    But part of being a good politician is getting the media on your side. If his policies won't work, then he'll only make a bad situation worse. If it gets worse, we'll utterly collapse. Let's measure on that.
    Actually, getting the media on your side doesn't mean you are a good politician, it just means you are a liberal... that is just the way it is in today's mainstream media.
    Well, then the liberals are better politicians
    No, most of the media is bias and do not report the news the way they claim to report the news.
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    PuroFreak:
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    dutyje:
    PuroFreak:
    I agree he is a good politician partially. He also has the media on his side so that helps a lot. I do not believe his policies will work and I do believe he will prolong our current ecconomic problems rather than correct them.
    But part of being a good politician is getting the media on your side. If his policies won't work, then he'll only make a bad situation worse. If it gets worse, we'll utterly collapse. Let's measure on that.
    Actually, getting the media on your side doesn't mean you are a good politician, it just means you are a liberal... that is just the way it is in today's mainstream media.
    Well, then the liberals are better politicians
    No, most of the media is bias and do not report the news the way they claim to report the news.
    But who convinced the media to be biased in favor of the liberals?
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  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    If we keep enticing people by lowering their taxes, how are we going to pay for anything any more? That money has to come from somewhere. That was one of the central arguments about S-CHIP.
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    PuroFreak:
    Many of those people that would lose jobs due to "Green" legislation against the oil and coal industry are older people who wouldn't be considered for jobs in alternative energy fields because they aren't as "tech savy" as younger college educated applicants.
    That's capitalism
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