It's public land, and they should be able to protest there. This is, after all, the United States and not Egypt!
Not if their protest is infringing on the rights of the other students to attend a class that they paid for.
Right...public land is public access...I feel if it disrupts that then you are subject to be policed. Peaceful protest I understand, but if lay in traffic your liable (keyword) to get run over.
Amendment I - US Constitution
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; OR THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE PEACABLLY TO ASSEMBLE, AND TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR A REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES.
Note: The RIGHT of the People to peacably assemble, especially for purposes of redressing grievances is supposed to be protected, and allowed IN FREE AMERICA. If the Police are paid to protect the rights of the people, I cannot understand why anyone would defend the Police when they disrupt and prohibit these FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
Personally, I don't care if commerce, or the movement of others is inconvenienced by people who are engaging in constitutionally protected activity. When we decide that these activities should be trumped for ANY REASON, then we are deciding that these first amendment RIGHTS no longer apply.
Personally, I don't care if commerce, or the movement of others is inconvenienced by people who are engaging in constitutionally protected activity. When we decide that these activities should be trumped for ANY REASON, then we are deciding that these first amendment RIGHTS no longer apply.
That's because this protest is not preventing YOUR movement. I bet you would care if it was your shop that was now not getting any business because of a protest or if you were not able to attend a class that you paid for. No one is saying they can't protest, why don't they protest at the local park?
No, I'm not the center of the world. If I am inconvenienced by people excercising their protected constitutional rights, that is one price we all pay for living in a free democratic republic. The right of the people to peacably assemble is supposed to be a protected activity. It is the duty of the government, (and the police are a function of the government), to protect the rights of the people that are guranteed in the Constitution. Commerce does not trump the right of the people to peacably assemble.
"...There are many things wrong with our country at the moment, the biggest are entitlement syndrome..."
There is no group of people in the United States who have a larger sense of entitlement than those on Wall St. who demand multi-million dollar bonuses for crashing the world economy with their greed, their corruption, their lying and cheating gambling with other peoples money.
"...There are many things wrong with our country at the moment, the biggest are entitlement syndrome..."
There is no group of people in the United States who have a larger sense of entitlement than those on Wall St. who demand multi-million dollar bonuses for crashing the world economy with their greed, their corruption, their lying and cheating gambling with other peoples money.
No, I'm not the center of the world. If I am inconvenienced by people excercising their protected constitutional rights, that is one price we all pay for living in a free democratic republic. The right of the people to peacably assemble is supposed to be a protected activity. It is the duty of the government, (and the police are a function of the government), to protect the rights of the people that are guranteed in the Constitution. Commerce does not trump the right of the people to peacably assemble.
No, living in a free and democratic republic means other people rights are not more important than my own. I have the right to pay and go to college, if I get accepted to that college. No one has the right to prevent me from doing that. I also have the right to not buy a service or product if I feel it is not worth the selling price.
Deej is right and JDH is struggling. The reality is you are dumb to put yourself and your unborn child in harm's way for something like this. If you agree with OWS cause then fine, but don't risk your baby over it...not worth it. Of course, that assumes she was really prego. Flagyp is right also. Make no mistake, Obama is lost and our country's economy and DEBT is careening out of control because we do not have a leader. Foreign policy (policy of appeasement...such as us dropping our nuclear defense positions in Czech and Pol to make Russia happy in exchange for them helping with Iran...which they have not) has produced nothing, unemployment higher, debt MASSIVELY higher, our credit ratings dropping, and miserable GDP. BO had everything he wanted for 2 years and what did he spend his efforts on? Obamacare. Oh and no whiners saying he inherited a bad situation. Almost every college football coach who starts a new job does so bc the previous guy got fired and things are a mess. After a few years though you know if you have the right guy. How long did it take Nick Saban or Urban Myer to change Bama or Florida and put them on the right track again? That's right...the teams improved almost instantly. Well here we are three years in with BO and still LOTS of questions. Folks we have the wrong guy and its time for a change. OWS is just another symptom of a country out of control bc no one is leading it.
I am very new to this forum, and do not yet know the tenor or extent of tolerance for political discussions that flourishes here, nor am I familiar with the personalities who post here. I do know that the US is as politically polarized as it was in 1968, and that political discussions can result in heated debate, often becoming uncivil in nature. I am not interested in engaging in that kind of discussion, especially with people I do not know, and who do not know me. For those reasons, I think I'll just refrain from posting on political threads until I have a little better understanding of the way things are here......
I am attracted to this site because of the possibility of discussing a common interest in premium cigars. From what I've seen, there are many who post here who have an extensive knowledge and passion for them, and I'd like to enjoy this common interest. The thread about individual humidor set-ups was a real eye-opener. Some of you guys have very impressive collections. I'm looking forward to reading what many of you have to say, and hopefully, I'll be able to make useful contributions from time to time.......
I do have one question, though. I can't insert paragraphs in my posts, even though I compose my responses with them. What am I missing? Thanks in advance for any insight that can be provided.
I am very new to this forum, and do not yet know the tenor or extent of tolerance for political discussions that flourishes here, nor am I familiar with the personalities who post here. I do know that the US is as politically polarized as it was in 1968, and that political discussions can result in heated debate, often becoming uncivil in nature. I am not interested in engaging in that kind of discussion, especially with people I do not know, and who do not know me. For those reasons, I think I'll just refrain from posting on political threads until I have a little better understanding of the way things are here......
I am attracted to this site because of the possibility of discussing a common interest in premium cigars. From what I've seen, there are many who post here who have an extensive knowledge and passion for them, and I'd like to enjoy this common interest. The thread about individual humidor set-ups was a real eye-opener. Some of you guys have very impressive collections. I'm looking forward to reading what many of you have to say, and hopefully, I'll be able to make useful contributions from time to time.......
I do have one question, though. I can't insert paragraphs in my posts, even though I compose my responses with them. What am I missing? Thanks in advance for any insight that can be provided.
JDH - Let if fly. what's good about this forum, is that it begins and ends with cigars. Go ahead and insult me, or Vulchor for that matter. We can take it. LOL
Big money loves big government, it's like a safety net to make sure they stay rich using regulations and such to stifle competition. Back to the topic at hand, the constitution is very clear about this but most will only follow the constitution and support it while it supports their agenda.
I am very new to this forum, and do not yet know the tenor or extent of tolerance for political discussions that flourishes here, nor am I familiar with the personalities who post here. I do know that the US is as politically polarized as it was in 1968, and that political discussions can result in heated debate, often becoming uncivil in nature. I am not interested in engaging in that kind of discussion, especially with people I do not know, and who do not know me. For those reasons, I think I'll just refrain from posting on political threads until I have a little better understanding of the way things are here......
I am attracted to this site because of the possibility of discussing a common interest in premium cigars. From what I've seen, there are many who post here who have an extensive knowledge and passion for them, and I'd like to enjoy this common interest. The thread about individual humidor set-ups was a real eye-opener. Some of you guys have very impressive collections. I'm looking forward to reading what many of you have to say, and hopefully, I'll be able to make useful contributions from time to time.......
I do have one question, though. I can't insert paragraphs in my posts, even though I compose my responses with them. What am I missing? Thanks in advance for any insight that can be provided.
JDH - Let if fly. what's good about this forum, is that it begins and ends with cigars. Go ahead and insult me, or Vulchor for that matter. We can take it. LOL
+1 It all stays here in off topic.... we're all just people trying to figure out the world, sharing thoughts on how to improve it. While it might get heated sometimes we all remember why we're here.
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