I wouldn't be surprised in the long run that if this bill is not abolished it will easily move the US economy into the lower 10 range which means China, Japan, Germany, Brazil, UK, Russia, India, and Canada will probably be ahead of the US in 20 years. In case you were wondering the bill will add 1.73T USD to the US debt immediately upon being put into effect and I believe 200M a year to upkeep it every year with even higher taxes. Shoulda payed more attention when I was learning this stuff..
You do realize that at least most, if not all of the countries you think will be ahead of us, already have what we're trying to get. What they DON'T have, is a bill for 48% of all the military spending on the planet. WE do.
Well I honestly don't know what these other countries have is the same thing we are trying to get. What I do know is that in many instances insurance companies make more money than healthcare providers do on medicare/medicaid claims. So I'm not terribly keen on giving more money and control to health insurance companies.
read this on another forum, bingo> I swear, you guys don't get it. Years ago, the Supreme Court ruled that the Fed had the power to regulate a private individual growing wheat in his own yard to feed his own family.
Now, 80+ years later, folks benefiting (or potentially benefiting) from OSHA, Fair Labor Standards Act, Clean Water Act, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, FEMA, Federal crop insurance, Federal Flood insurance, and the whole freakin list of programs that have followed want to act all surprised at this result? Huh? Wut?
We have a "soft socialist" nation because two parties are in love with increasing the power of the Fed: The Demos and the Repubs. Their only real area of disagreement is who's income is to be taken and who's actions are to be controlled. And, these parties are in love with gov. power, gov. control, and redistribution of income because their voters demand it. We are a nation of petty regulators.
Real liberty, real freedom, real individualism left this nation long ago. This was a direct result of the change in the popular view of the basic social contract in this country. I fear, that change is permanent and irreversible.
Years ago, the idea of taxing one man 100K per year and taxing his neighbor only 10K per year was revolutionary. Now, its considered "fair" or "just" or "right" or one of those other empty terms used to justify a result.
"Co-conspirators?" Both parties are doing exactly what their victim mentality, entitlement demanding, weak kneed, "I've fallen and can't get up, and its your fault," petty regulator constituents demand. Exactly.
Meanwhile, re-naming the french fries in the Congressional cafeteria "freedom fries" is considered a significant event, and not under the heading: You gotta be f'in kidding me that those c-suckers are wasting a single f'in moment on such stupid g.d. chit. Its considered an achievement.
two parties are in love with increasing the power of the Fed: The Demos and the Repubs. Their only real area of disagreement is who's income is to be taken and who's actions are to be controlled. And, these parties are in love with gov. power, gov. control, and redistribution of income because their voters demand it. We are a nation of petty regulators.
Real liberty, real freedom, real individualism left this nation long ago. This was a direct result of the change in the popular view of the basic social contract in this country. I fear, that change is permanent and irreversible.
"Co-conspirators?" Both parties are doing exactly what their victim mentality, entitlement demanding, weak kneed, "I've fallen and can't get up, and its your fault," petty regulator constituents demand. Exactly.
Meanwhile, re-naming the french fries in the Congressional cafeteria "freedom fries" is considered a significant event, and not under the heading: You gotta be f'in kidding me that those c-suckers are wasting a single f'in moment on such stupid g.d. chit. Its considered an achievement.
Well, can't argue with any of that! Hit the nail on the head.
Ok, i will be honest, i have not paid attention to any of this until now. Everything on this thread seems to be hey its a tax, hey it is this, it is that....what does it all mean to the working class person, such as my self who pays tens of thousands of dollars a yeat in taxes? What, now if i get sick, is my doctor not going see me? Can i not get my medication? guys please dont take this wrong, i could give two shits less on weather it is a tax or not, just what is going to change for me and my family, friends, and all of you? Please explain what is going to change, not wether it is a victory for some one or not. Is this something i should just go home for and ask govorner perry to start building the great wall of TEXAS and become our own country?
if you dont like progress, move to saudi arabia... conservative paradise. hug it out. we are all Americans, quit being so polarized and political... arguing on the internet is like winning at Russian roulette...
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