Liberty 2012's?

phobicsquirrel

Anyone have one yet?

jliu

when did they come out? can I go and purchase it somewhere? I hear they are pretty hot sellers.

Rob1110

haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.

MVW67

Opened 2011 had mold, right from b&m pissed off , got credit though, so worked out!:-)

laker1963

MVW67:

Opened 2011 had mold, right from b&m pissed off , got credit though, so worked out!:-)

Must have been something about the 2011's. Put away too fresh or something. There seemed to bo a lot of BOTL complaining about mold in the coffins of these sticks. Hopefully 2012 goes better, cause they are usually very tasty sticks. Pheebs got me into them with a 2008 I believe it was!

MVW67

laker1963:

MVW67:

Opened 2011 had mold, right from b&m pissed off , got credit though, so worked out!:-)

Must have been something about the 2011's. Put away too fresh or something. There seemed to bo a lot of BOTL complaining about mold in the coffins of these sticks. Hopefully 2012 goes better, cause they are usually very tasty sticks. Pheebs got me into them with a 2008 I believe it was!

local b&m usually has them will look for 12 for us......:-)

jliu

MVW67:

laker1963:

MVW67:

Opened 2011 had mold, right from b&m pissed off , got credit though, so worked out!:-)

Must have been something about the 2011's. Put away too fresh or something. There seemed to bo a lot of BOTL complaining about mold in the coffins of these sticks. Hopefully 2012 goes better, cause they are usually very tasty sticks. Pheebs got me into them with a 2008 I believe it was!

local b&m usually has them will look for 12 for us......:-)

don't you dare go look for us. you've done enough. we'll look for YOU. stupid mike...

laker1963

rzaman

I am a Camacho fan and used like yearly liberty line cigars but not anymore. I still remember the great liberty from 2005, 2006 and 2007. Then after 2008 I lost my interest because I felt the quality went down and never try to try the later releases. I would like to know about your experience. Maybe they improved...I don't know.

Lee.mcglynn

j0z3r

Rob1110:

haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.

I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.

jliu

j0z3r:

Rob1110:

haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.

I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.

Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?

MVW67

Found singles, 4 packs and boxes of 2012, still nervous!!:-)

jliu

I found better than what you found I bet. don't worry my michael williams. i'll take care of you

MVW67

jliu:

I found better than what you found I bet. don't worry my michael williams. i'll take care of you

please see list!!:-)

laker1963

MVW67

jliu

laker1963

j0z3r

jliu:

j0z3r:

Rob1110:

haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.

I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.

Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?

Just going on a hunch juju...I think it has more evolving to do.

laker1963

j0z3r:

jliu:

j0z3r:

Rob1110:

haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.

I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.

Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?

Just going on a hunch juju...I think it has more evolving to do.

That's my favorite bumper sticker... it just says "evolve already damnit!"

jliu

laker1963:

j0z3r:

jliu:

j0z3r:

Rob1110:

haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.

I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.

Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?

Just going on a hunch juju...I think it has more evolving to do.

That's my favorite bumper sticker... it just says "evolve already damnit!"

geez... I was actually asking a serious question. But you're prob going to say it was a serious answer haha.

j0z3r

jliu:

laker1963:

j0z3r:

jliu:

j0z3r:

Rob1110:

haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.

I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.

Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?

Just going on a hunch juju...I think it has more evolving to do.

That's my favorite bumper sticker... it just says "evolve already damnit!"

geez... I was actually asking a serious question. But you're prob going to say it was a serious answer haha.

It was a serious answer on my part. I don't deal in tasting notes, too much hassle...a cigar is either great, good, not good...or not there yet.

j0z3r

jliu

hahah fully understood! no I totally hear ya. At the end of the day, I just gauge based on my own taste buds what I think is good and what I think is crap. I used to take all these notes when I smoke cigars but nowadays, not really. "this is good. I should get more" "this tastes like rotten chow mein, pass." I was just curious what you thought of that particular cigar that made you think it needed more time. But ya, totally understand your perspective b/c I basically do the same thing

j0z3r

jliu:

hahah fully understood! no I totally hear ya. At the end of the day, I just gauge based on my own taste buds what I think is good and what I think is crap. I used to take all these notes when I smoke cigars but nowadays, not really. "this is good. I should get more" "this tastes like rotten chow mein, pass." I was just curious what you thought of that particular cigar that made you think it needed more time. But ya, totally understand your perspective b/c I basically do the same thing

I see...what made me think it needs more time is the flavors were not cohesive and the balance was off. I may very well be wrong and maybe this is as good as it gets... who knows?

laker1963

jliu

milk? right now????

laker1963

Well I was having cereal actually

j0z3r

Glad I could help Doug. Whenever I see the words "evolution" or "evolve" I immediately think of several different bits Bill Hicks did on the subject...that's one of 'em. We want our thumbs! Haha

phobicsquirrel

MVW67:

Opened 2011 had mold, right from b&m pissed off , got credit though, so worked out!:-)

I bought boxes of the 08 and 09's and after several months I went to have an 08 and they had mold on them too. I luckily was able to clean them off and put them in cello. They haven't had an issue since. Both the 08, 09, 10's have this issue. Not sure what is up with it but it pisses me off. They are all in cello now and no issues. I only bought a few 10's so I can't speak on them in their "Box". I do feel that the 06 and the 08 are the best but I haven't had the 12's yet.