Great stuff as always. Too bad the people that NEED to read it, won't.
Reminds me of when I was home on vacation, I was at a casino smoking a MOW PA. Some really loud drunk asked me what I was smoking, so I told him. His reply was "Must be some no name house brand since I've never heard of it"...as he was smoking his Macanudo.
Lmao I had that happen plenty of times!! Damn you macanudo,montecristo and Romeo y Juliet!! Some people will never know anything else
-Use a proper cutter to cut your cigar. Biting off the end, cutting with a dull knife, or using fingernails to cut leaves to much chance of disrespecting the manufacturer by flubbing a cut and ruining the cigar.
-Take your time to light a cigar correctly by toasting the foot before bringing to your lips and puffing. This again goes back to the respecting the manufacturer.
-Do not smoke while working. Cigars are a means of relaxation.
I dunno, Kuzi. You know you are my cigar guru and all that, but you lost me here. I started reading this post and two and a half out of the first three I could not buy at all.
"- Use a proper cutter to cut your cigar. Biting off the end, cutting with a dull knife, or using fingernails to cut leaves to much chance of disrespecting the manufacturer by flubbing a cut and ruining the cigar."
That there's a clumsy straw man. Knives are not necessarily dull, and a sharp knife works very well on any vitola with a cap. We ever herf up, I challenge you to cut a robusto any neater with your cutter than I do with my three and a half inch high carbon folding Tidioute pocket knife. And fingernails? Really? Who does that?
"- Take your time to light a cigar correctly by toasting the foot before bringing to your lips and puffing. This again goes back to the respecting the manufacturer. "
Give you half on that. Toast the foot but screw the manufacturer... toast for flavor. A toasted foot fires up much finer. The volume, the temperature, the way the aromas are released.
"-Do not smoke while working. Cigars are a means of relaxation. "
Not even close. I love to smoke and work. Wish I could smoke in the office. Otherwise, I am always puttering on the garage puter or handling steel there while smoking. If you don't find your work relaxing then you are doing the wrong work.
Having disagreed with two and a half out of the first three, I then scanned down the rest of the list. Way too damn many rules to worry about. I just gave up at that point. Just not going to get that neurotic about it. I suppose I smoke alone too much to relate to most of this, cause 99% of my smokes I am fooling around in the garage with MMA on the toob, beer in one hand, steel in the other hand, digital stuff on the work bench, bikes all around. Nobody to offend there.
That there's a clumsy straw man. Knives are not necessarily dull, and a sharp knife works very well on any vitola with a cap. We ever herf up, I challenge you to cut a robusto any neater with your cutter than I do with my three and a half inch high carbon folding Tidioute pocket knife.
thats why i said a "dull knife" a sharp knife is fine. Xikar makes one. (the 744 knife) no problem there.
webmost:
And fingernails? Really? Who does that?
you would be surprised. fourth post, this thread: CLICK
webmost:
"- Take your time to light a cigar correctly by toasting the foot before bringing to your lips and puffing. This again goes back to the respecting the manufacturer. "
Give you half on that. Toast the foot but screw the manufacturer... toast for flavor. A toasted foot fires up much finer. The volume, the temperature, the way the aromas are released.
so you dont respect the manufacturer for bringing you this hour+ of enjoyment? you are a meanie head.
just sayin
webmost:
"-Do not smoke while working. Cigars are a means of relaxation. "
Not even close. I love to smoke and work. Wish I could smoke in the office. Otherwise, I am always puttering on the garage puter or handling steel there while smoking. If you don't find your work relaxing then you are doing the wrong work.
this is not a disagreement.
"puttering" is NOT "work". sometimes "work" is only called that because you get paid to do it.
i would absolutely smoke a cigar while "working" on a guitar in my basement.
i would NOT smoke a cigar while scrubbing the toilet or any other job i hated.
see the difference?
webmost:
Having disagreed with two and a half out of the first three, I then scanned down the rest of the list. Way too damn many rules to worry about. I just gave up at that point. Just not going to get that neurotic about it. I suppose I smoke alone too much to relate to most of this, cause 99% of my smokes I am fooling around in the garage with MMA on the toob, beer in one hand, steel in the other hand, digital stuff on the work bench, bikes all around. Nobody to offend there.
Sorry.
many of the rest of the list was in a group setting. you are probably safe.
i am mostly a solitary smoker as well.
you are right, it is very hard to offend people when you are alone. i am fairly sure the rest of it youd be ok with. the first section was the biggest "stretch" for most. the rest is mostly common sense.
I know sometimes when I'm smoking and getting to the last third, sometimes the cigar gets a little bitter. I'm assuming its due to my technique even though I try to be very careful about how hard and often I draw. I've found when this happens I can blow through the stick and this removes that bitterness and I can continue to enjoy. My question is: is this considered a breach of etiquette? If I'm smoking at a b&m and do this is it considered "newbish"?
I know sometimes when I'm smoking and getting to the last third, sometimes the cigar gets a little bitter. I'm assuming its due to my technique even though I try to be very careful about how hard and often I draw. I've found when this happens I can blow through the stick and this removes that bitterness and I can continue to enjoy. My question is: is this considered a breach of etiquette? If I'm smoking at a b&m and do this is it considered "newbish"?
no problem there. its all good. in fact, the more experienced smokers are the ones that tend to do that.
I know sometimes when I'm smoking and getting to the last third, sometimes the cigar gets a little bitter. I'm assuming its due to my technique even though I try to be very careful about how hard and often I draw. I've found when this happens I can blow through the stick and this removes that bitterness and I can continue to enjoy. My question is: is this considered a breach of etiquette? If I'm smoking at a b&m and do this is it considered "newbish"?
no problem there. its all good. in fact, the more experienced smokers are the ones that tend to do that.
That's good to hear. Not that I would have changed anything. I cant let a little name calling come between me and that last third.
I'm headed to a B&M Friday afternoon. This will be my first time at this store as it is in a town an hour away. I plan on buying a few sticks and smoking one to kill some time while I wait for a friend. I figured I would reread and bump this thread. Good stuff. Thanks Kuzi.
Can we get "don`t finger blast the nut jar"?
For anyone that cares the B&M we gather at has this little jars of nuts. You know the ones were the opening at the top is fairly narrow nd goes into a bowl of nuts. Your supposed to tip the container and pour the nuts into your hand. Well this character at the lounge decides to dig his finger into the container. The hole at the top is so small that he cant get two fingers in the jar. So this dude is pulling one nut out at a time. So of course I go on for a good 10 minutes of various crude humor about this dumba€$. Well poor ol Stad was apparently oblivious as to why Jim and I are laughing so hard goes and starts munchin the finger blasted nuts. Hope the stink finger wasnt too bad. Yes I did tell Stad to putt`em down... I couldn't let the guy eat too many.
Anyway moral of the story the hole in the top of the nut container is small for a reason.
I like the first part of Kuzi's post where he talks about respecting the cigar and using a proper cutter, light..etc. It reminded me once a while ago and I was in a meeting with a potential new client and the sales guy I was helping. (I was the IT engineer, there to answer any tech questions). And we were at a lunch meeting and he brought us cigars. The meeting went very well, but at the end of lunch I decided to light my cigar up. After I got it going, he said to the sales guy something like "If your engineers take as good care with my infrastructure as he does with my cigar, you have a deal." Never forgot that.
I just wanna say... I thought that no one would REALLY lick all over their cigar before using a COMMUNITY cutter. Welp, I was wrong
I was at a B&M and the owners starting talking about their cutter, they have a cup full of guillotine style, scissors, and whatnot, as well as a table top lever-style. And they were afraid to use them after all these guys come in and french-kiss their cigars before fumbling the cutters around them. LOL
glad I usually bring my own... If i forgot, I might break the "fingernail rule" ... i dunno.
I just wanna say... I thought that no one would REALLY lick all over their cigar before using a COMMUNITY cutter. Welp, I was wrong
I was at a B&M and the owners starting talking about their cutter, they have a cup full of guillotine style, scissors, and whatnot, as well as a table top lever-style. And they were afraid to use them after all these guys come in and french-kiss their cigars before fumbling the cutters around them. LOL
glad I usually bring my own... If i forgot, I might break the "fingernail rule" ... i dunno.
i keep a cheapo double guillotine in the center console of the jeep just in case im out and dont have mine on me.
this is really good.....
has anyone talked to the board designer to see if threads can be pinned?
Threads like these should be pinned at the top of the various boards that are their home. i would have never found this thread if MVW67 didn't bump the Newbs thread.
this is really good.....
has anyone talked to the board designer to see if threads can be pinned?
Threads like these should be pinned at the top of the various boards that are their home. i would have never found this thread if MVW67 didn't bump the Newbs thread.
yes would be nice, but don't know. There are a few of us that try keeping info on top for just that reason. :-)
I am flat out told. Thank you Kuzi, that was a great post. I can memorize and picture moments of mistakes and was taken back. I am very guilty of the tooth pick..... It is just habit to me to enjoy the hell out of it. And it all makes sense... Basically be appropriate for the crowd. very cool man
This is an awesome post. Funny i came across it tonight as the owner of my barber shop provides cigars to cutomers and gives them a room to enjoy it in, he has a collection of cutters at the counter. He asks everyone how they like their cigar cut and then does it for them. His reason was the very reason you mentioned. He is a bit of a germiphobe.....all barbers are......and mentioned that he hates it when people lick up their stick as he puts it, and then share the same cutter.....so since he is providing the free cigar he cuts it for them. Also funny, in my short time in the shop I have already noticed some guys breaking some of your rules, like interupting conversations, busting on others because they chose a Macanudo to smoke (he offers 2 different Macanudos, 2 different Romeos,a Punch, Or to good customers his pick of the week, but they have to be a regular and in good standing). The one thing I see that makes me nuts is when an inexperienced guy comes in and decides to stay for a smoke and a drink, the more experienced guys sense it like a shark sensing blood, and go on and on about how to smoke.....I've gotten quite good on how to light one, so I go out of my way to help them light it....and that should be it, help the new guy get it lit in a non discript way and let him/her enjoy it, the more experienced guys should appreciate a newer guy, might make a friend and have future conversations with the guy, but acting like a know it all can be rude, and not to mention over bearing. There is enough to learn about cigars it can get OVERWHELMING, baby steps.....off my soapbox
This is an awesome post. Funny i came across it tonight as the owner of my barber shop provides cigars to cutomers and gives them a room to enjoy it in, he has a collection of cutters at the counter. He asks everyone how they like their cigar cut and then does it for them. His reason was the very reason you mentioned. He is a bit of a germiphobe.....all barbers are......and mentioned that he hates it when people lick up their stick as he puts it, and then share the same cutter.....so since he is providing the free cigar he cuts it for them. Also funny, in my short time in the shop I have already noticed some guys breaking some of your rules, like interupting conversations, busting on others because they chose a Macanudo to smoke (he offers 2 different Macanudos, 2 different Romeos,a Punch, Or to good customers his pick of the week, but they have to be a regular and in good standing). The one thing I see that makes me nuts is when an inexperienced guy comes in and decides to stay for a smoke and a drink, the more experienced guys sense it like a shark sensing blood, and go on and on about how to smoke.....I've gotten quite good on how to light one, so I go out of my way to help them light it....and that should be it, help the new guy get it lit in a non discript way and let him/her enjoy it, the more experienced guys should appreciate a newer guy, might make a friend and have future conversations with the guy, but acting like a know it all can be rude, and not to mention over bearing. There is enough to learn about cigars it can get OVERWHELMING, baby steps.....off my soapbox
the owner of your barbar shop sounds like an awesome guy. if im ever out that way i may get a haircut from him just to give some business.
This is an awesome post. Funny i came across it tonight as the owner of my barber shop provides cigars to cutomers and gives them a room to enjoy it in, he has a collection of cutters at the counter. He asks everyone how they like their cigar cut and then does it for them. His reason was the very reason you mentioned. He is a bit of a germiphobe.....all barbers are......and mentioned that he hates it when people lick up their stick as he puts it, and then share the same cutter.....so since he is providing the free cigar he cuts it for them. Also funny, in my short time in the shop I have already noticed some guys breaking some of your rules, like interupting conversations, busting on others because they chose a Macanudo to smoke (he offers 2 different Macanudos, 2 different Romeos,a Punch, Or to good customers his pick of the week, but they have to be a regular and in good standing). The one thing I see that makes me nuts is when an inexperienced guy comes in and decides to stay for a smoke and a drink, the more experienced guys sense it like a shark sensing blood, and go on and on about how to smoke.....I've gotten quite good on how to light one, so I go out of my way to help them light it....and that should be it, help the new guy get it lit in a non discript way and let him/her enjoy it, the more experienced guys should appreciate a newer guy, might make a friend and have future conversations with the guy, but acting like a know it all can be rude, and not to mention over bearing. There is enough to learn about cigars it can get OVERWHELMING, baby steps.....off my soapbox
the owner of your barbar shop sounds like an awesome guy. if im ever out that way i may get a haircut from him just to give some business.
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I have no hair and would give him business.... well I have a beard and the bald guy horseshoe. So my hair is cut with clippers whenever I feel froggy.
This is an awesome post. Funny i came across it tonight as the owner of my barber shop provides cigars to cutomers and gives them a room to enjoy it in, he has a collection of cutters at the counter. He asks everyone how they like their cigar cut and then does it for them. His reason was the very reason you mentioned. He is a bit of a germiphobe.....all barbers are......and mentioned that he hates it when people lick up their stick as he puts it, and then share the same cutter.....so since he is providing the free cigar he cuts it for them. Also funny, in my short time in the shop I have already noticed some guys breaking some of your rules, like interupting conversations, busting on others because they chose a Macanudo to smoke (he offers 2 different Macanudos, 2 different Romeos,a Punch, Or to good customers his pick of the week, but they have to be a regular and in good standing). The one thing I see that makes me nuts is when an inexperienced guy comes in and decides to stay for a smoke and a drink, the more experienced guys sense it like a shark sensing blood, and go on and on about how to smoke.....I've gotten quite good on how to light one, so I go out of my way to help them light it....and that should be it, help the new guy get it lit in a non discript way and let him/her enjoy it, the more experienced guys should appreciate a newer guy, might make a friend and have future conversations with the guy, but acting like a know it all can be rude, and not to mention over bearing. There is enough to learn about cigars it can get OVERWHELMING, baby steps.....off my soapbox
I seriously wish there was a barber shop like this in my area, sounds like an awesome place.
In reality, this is by no means an "end all" guide when it comes to cigar etiquette. This is how (and why) I (attempt to) act in different situations within the cigar world. As i have said many times before, I am just a guy that likes cigars a little too much. Should more points come to mind, I will edit accordingly on the first post. No need for a lengthy introduction. Down to business.
Pertaining to the cigar itself:
-Use a proper cutter to cut your cigar. Biting off the end, cutting with a dull knife, or using fingernails to cut leaves to much chance of disrespecting the manufacturer by flubbing a cut and ruining the cigar.
-Take your time to light a cigar correctly by toasting the foot before bringing to your lips and puffing. This again goes back to the respecting the manufacturer.
-Do not smoke while working. Cigars are a means of relaxation.
-Do not crush your cigar out in an ashtray. Let the cigar die in peace at its own pace. This will help eliminate sour odors in the ashtray.
-Dispose of your finished cigar quickly and discretely. Many cigar nubs in an ashtray does not reflect well the tray's owner.
-Do not litter. Cellophane and cigar clippings have their place in the trash, not as eyesores for the population at large. Ash from your cigar does not belong on the floor. It belongs in the ashtray.
-Remember that cost is not the only measure of quality in cigars. Do not disrespect cigars as being poor quality because they are inexpensive.
-Be mindful that reviews are subjective. Do not purchase cigars based only on one review. Make up your own mind and be your own smoker.
-Cigars are many people's livelihoods. Do not disrespect a cigar you do not enjoy. Just state that they are not your taste and move on. Many peoples lives are built on the cigar that you do not like. Have respect for that.
When Smoking with a group:
-Do not judge, or look down on what cigars other people choose to smoke. What you think is a poor smoke may be the next guys holy grail.
-Do not give unsolicited smoking advice to others.
-If you are smoking in a cigar shop, purchase a cigar from the shop. This is a way of showing respect to the owner and thanking them for letting you smoke there.
-If you are smoking from a host's open humidor (free of charge) take only one cigar unless specifically directed by the host to take more.
-Remove the band of the cigar you are smoking. This eliminates the illusion that you may be trying to look elitist by smoking high end sticks in front of others.
-Should others leave bands on, do not mention it. This is, in reality, a very minor point.
-Respect the people that were in the room/shop/smoking area before you got there. “Your spot” is not reserved. Don't ask others to move. First come, first serve.
-Social status in a smoking lounge means nothing. How you handle yourself means everything. Garbage collectors and CEOs are all men in cigar shop, that is if you act like it.
-Do not lick the cap of your cigar before the cut if you are using the communal cutter. In fact, it is in good taste to leave the cellophane on (if it has cellophane) while making your cut with a communal cutter.
-If you lick the cap before you cut cigars with your cutter, do not lend out your cutter to others.
-Do not act flashy in how you light your cigar.
-Do not ask others to light your cigar for you. It is your cigar. The entire experience is yours.
-Do not ask to “try a puff” off of another smoker's cigar. That cigar is his/hers. Your cigar is yours. Each is a personal experience. Keep it that way.
-Do not pull out a toothpick or cigar holder to “finish” your nub. This indicates desperate behavior.
-Do not relight your cigar if you have already smoked past where the band was. This also indicates desperate behavior.
-Do not change the subject of conversation should you arrive in the middle of said conversation. Add to it if appropriate, but let it run its course.
-In similar fashion, do not force your conversation on others that do not want to be a part of it. Not everyone wants to know about how drunk you were last night and what woman of loose reputation you spent the evening with.
-Should conversation that makes you uncomfortable come up, either do not participate or quietly excuse yourself. Do not cause a scene.
-Should your cellphone ring, Take the conversation away from the group. Do not interrupt the group with your side affairs.
-If a new smoker breaks a cigar etiquette rule, do not scold, but rather inform in a respectful way. There is a good chance that a new smoker has not been exposed to the culture.
-When leaving the group make sure to thank the host for use of time and space to smoke and thank others around you for the camaraderie and conversation.
When smoking around non-cigar smokers:
-Do not act foolish by making a big deal that you are smoking a cigar. Most others will not care, or worse yet, you or they may be made to feel uncomfortable or unwelcome.
-Remember that the area that you may want to smoke in may be later occupied by non-smokers. If you feel that these people will be offended by lingering cigar odor, find another place to smoke.
-Cigar smoke can be offensive to others. If you walk into an area and notice others that are uncomfortable with the smoke, move along. If you are first in an area and they move to your space, respectfully stand your ground.
-Unless expressed by law, the outdoors is the most acceptable place to smoke.
-If going to non-smoking social events after your smoke, try to change your clothes before the event. Cigar smoke sticks to clothes and non-smokers will shy away from your lingering odor.
-If at all possible, do not leave your finished cigar in places that cause others to clean up after you.
-Do not talk about your cigar as if everyone around you cares about it. Only speak of it if you are asked about it. Should they do so, do not dominate the room with the conversation. Most non-smokers want to talk of other matters.
In relation to giving/receiving cigars:
-When making a trade, attempt to stay in the spirit of a fair trade. Equivalent cost and quality should be taken into account. Do not short your end of the trade and do not “way over do it” by giving too much. Either end may be misconstrued as disrespectful.
-When on the receiving end of a cigar “bomb” be gracious. Even if one or more of the cigars is a brand or brands you are not a fan of, they were sent to you out of respect and your enjoyment in mind. Thank them for the gesture and accept them.
-When sending out a bomb or gift, be mindful of the receiver's preferred flavor profile. Do not send out cigars you know they will not like.
-When participating in a box pass or forum game, be timely in your turn. Do not hold up the game or pass. If you have concerns that you cannot be timely, then do not participate.
-If you are on the short end of a trade gone bad, try your best to resolve in private. If this does not work, be respectful and truthful when bringing it out to the public.
-Trade in the spirit of “buyer beware”.
-If you do not get along with someone, do not attempt to thwart their trades, passes, or transaction. Just do not trade with them yourself.
-If someone you do not like to trade with signs up for a pass or game you set up or are a part of do not attempt to exclude them. Your personal feelings have no bearing on if they are a good trader or not.
-If, for personal reasons, you refuse to trade with an individual, do not advertise this fact. Quietly avoid situations where you would have to trade with them.
-Do not ask to be bombed. Bombs are a sign of respect. you will get one if you have acted accordingly and others feel you deserve one.
In relation to dealing with purchasing cigars:
-When in a cigar shop, do not talk about how you can find better deals in other cigar shops. The shop you are in is someones business. Driving business away from them is in poor taste.
-When on a forum hosted by a retailer (such as the cigar.com forum) do not post links to competitors. This is the same as driving business away from a Brick and Mortar shop.
-Do not ask for freebies. Should they be offered, be thankful, but do not expect them. These business owners have a business to run and they run the business to support themselves and their families.
-Remember that you are not the only one in the cigar shop. There may be others who need help from the sales person. Do not dominate their time. Also, spend as little time at the register as you are able. Others may be waiting in line.
-When purchasing cigars, make sure to thank your tobacconist for any help in making your purchase.
-Do not handle cigars you do not intend to purchase
-Do not let your nose touch a cigar if you do not intend on purchasing it.
-Should you accidentally drop or damage a cigar in a shop humidor, do not place it back in the box. Hand it to the tobacconist of the shop and explain what happened. Let them decide if it is worthy to be sold. If you damaged the cigar to the point where it cannot be sold, be prepared to buy it and do not complain if asked to do so.
-Should you find a cigar that is already damaged or has signs of beetles or mold, quietly bring this to the attention of the tobacconist. Do not cause a scene.
In relation to posting on internet cigar forums:
-Remember that all forums have hosts. They make the rules. When you sign up, you agree to follow those rules. Do not complain about them.
-The internet is full of people that do not share the views that you do. Be respectful of other points of view even if you do not agree.
-The internet is a place where many new people are looking to learn about a topic. Help others learn and share your love of cigars at every opportunity.
-Make new people feel welcome. Every one of us was new at some point. We all needed help. Help others they way you were helped.
-Approach forums in a “perpetual newbie” manor. There are many theories about cigars out there. There are many opinions out there. Do not act like you know everything about cigars. You do not. Nobody does. Learn what you can when you can.
-Ask questions often. Do not be shy.
-Answer questions often. Do not be shy.
-Respect other cigar opinions while stating your own. The topic can be interesting and fruitful if kept respectful.
-Be honest.
-Do not plagiarize posts or reviews. Many people put large amounts of time into these posts and reviews. Give credit where credit is due.
Remember that the cigar community is a community built on Tradition and respect for Gentlemen (and ladies) who want to enjoy an artful interpretation of tobaccos with other like minded enthusiasts. Use common sense and discretion should any issues come up. Most importantly, try to relax and enjoy.
Bump-er trains for anyone who hasn't read this yet.
kuzi, 1st off Great Post, I have only been going to a B&M for a few years now, and have not run into any issues at the one I go to, but the info here is nice to have should I ever do so, or go to another that's not as quaint as the one I "grew up" in.
2nd, I have a proper etiquette question related to my wife's cigar smoking, she loves flavored/infused cigars "Kuba Kuba's, Vanilla's, Amaretto, Tabak's and the like, (she usually smokes one every evening after dinner with me and what ever I'm smoking) she has went with me to the local B&M I like to go to and they only sell there branded name cigars, they don't have flavored/infused, so she got one of there mildest cigars (with help from the sales lady there) but didn't enjoy her time there with it, she has asked me a few times that I go, if it would be OK for her to bring one of her own there as long as I buy mine to smoke there as well as a few more to make up for her bringing her own, I have told her no (not because of bringing her own) but because I'm not sure of the other patrons there being submitted to "flavored/infused" cigar smells there while trying to enjoy their cigars, I would love your "and others" input here as she sometimes feels left out when I go to the B&M to enjoy a smoke and the ambiance of the place and she either has to go "without a cigar" or just not be able to come along.
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"- Use a proper cutter to cut your cigar. Biting off the end, cutting with a dull knife, or using fingernails to cut leaves to much chance of disrespecting the manufacturer by flubbing a cut and ruining the cigar."
That there's a clumsy straw man. Knives are not necessarily dull, and a sharp knife works very well on any vitola with a cap. We ever herf up, I challenge you to cut a robusto any neater with your cutter than I do with my three and a half inch high carbon folding Tidioute pocket knife. And fingernails? Really? Who does that?
"- Take your time to light a cigar correctly by toasting the foot before bringing to your lips and puffing. This again goes back to the respecting the manufacturer. "
Give you half on that. Toast the foot but screw the manufacturer... toast for flavor. A toasted foot fires up much finer. The volume, the temperature, the way the aromas are released.
"-Do not smoke while working. Cigars are a means of relaxation. "
Not even close. I love to smoke and work. Wish I could smoke in the office. Otherwise, I am always puttering on the garage puter or handling steel there while smoking. If you don't find your work relaxing then you are doing the wrong work.
Having disagreed with two and a half out of the first three, I then scanned down the rest of the list. Way too damn many rules to worry about. I just gave up at that point. Just not going to get that neurotic about it. I suppose I smoke alone too much to relate to most of this, cause 99% of my smokes I am fooling around in the garage with MMA on the toob, beer in one hand, steel in the other hand, digital stuff on the work bench, bikes all around. Nobody to offend there.
Sorry.
a sharp knife is fine. Xikar makes one. (the 744 knife) no problem there. you would be surprised. fourth post, this thread: CLICK
so you dont respect the manufacturer for bringing you this hour+ of enjoyment?
you are a meanie head.
just sayin
this is not a disagreement.
"puttering" is NOT "work".
sometimes "work" is only called that because you get paid to do it.
i would absolutely smoke a cigar while "working" on a guitar in my basement.
i would NOT smoke a cigar while scrubbing the toilet or any other job i hated.
see the difference?
many of the rest of the list was in a group setting. you are probably safe.
i am mostly a solitary smoker as well.
you are right, it is very hard to offend people when you are alone.
i am fairly sure the rest of it youd be ok with. the first section was the biggest "stretch" for most. the rest is mostly common sense.
For anyone that cares the B&M we gather at has this little jars of nuts. You know the ones were the opening at the top is fairly narrow nd goes into a bowl of nuts. Your supposed to tip the container and pour the nuts into your hand. Well this character at the lounge decides to dig his finger into the container. The hole at the top is so small that he cant get two fingers in the jar. So this dude is pulling one nut out at a time. So of course I go on for a good 10 minutes of various crude humor about this dumba€$. Well poor ol Stad was apparently oblivious as to why Jim and I are laughing so hard goes and starts munchin the finger blasted nuts. Hope the stink finger wasnt too bad. Yes I did tell Stad to putt`em down... I couldn't let the guy eat too many.
Anyway moral of the story the hole in the top of the nut container is small for a reason.
I was at a B&M and the owners starting talking about their cutter, they have a cup full of guillotine style, scissors, and whatnot, as well as a table top lever-style. And they were afraid to use them after all these guys come in and french-kiss their cigars before fumbling the cutters around them. LOL
glad I usually bring my own... If i forgot, I might break the "fingernail rule" ... i dunno.
I have no hair and would give him business.... well I have a beard and the bald guy horseshoe. So my hair is cut with clippers whenever I feel froggy.
2nd, I have a proper etiquette question related to my wife's cigar smoking, she loves flavored/infused cigars "Kuba Kuba's, Vanilla's, Amaretto, Tabak's and the like, (she usually smokes one every evening after dinner with me and what ever I'm smoking) she has went with me to the local B&M I like to go to and they only sell there branded name cigars, they don't have flavored/infused, so she got one of there mildest cigars (with help from the sales lady there) but didn't enjoy her time there with it, she has asked me a few times that I go, if it would be OK for her to bring one of her own there as long as I buy mine to smoke there as well as a few more to make up for her bringing her own, I have told her no (not because of bringing her own) but because I'm not sure of the other patrons there being submitted to "flavored/infused" cigar smells there while trying to enjoy their cigars, I would love your "and others" input here as she sometimes feels left out when I go to the B&M to enjoy a smoke and the ambiance of the place and she either has to go "without a cigar" or just not be able to come along.