Can't say that I have, happily. OTOH, butyric acid is also a prominent component of butter (hence the name), and I have had cigars that tasted buttery.
THis is why we love you urbs. Your knowledge always makes us go bleeehhh
Maybe he is just on Vacation or something, I'd hate to add his name to the list of " Lost Boys ". Other guys we are missing.. Lasabar, Pilot, and the Captain.. You too Duty Joe !!
Your lurking but not adding your three cents..
Does this mean I have to smell my fart before I can fairly say a bad cigar tastes like crap? Or will smelling a fart while smoking then make my good cigar taste like crap?
Does this mean I have to smell my fart before I can fairly say a bad cigar tastes like crap? Or will smelling a fart while smoking then make my good cigar taste like crap?
Yes, and maybe. Honestly, I really don't want to find out if either of those are true.
Kuzi, the second I started reading this thread it really peaked my interest, because I have personal experience with the innerworkings of the nasal passasge, the olfactory sensors, and the chemistry of smell itself. Why you ask? Well a little over a year ago, I was ran over by a car and I came out of it with a fractured skull and a severe concussion (along with some nerve damage in my leg and an aching spine). Anyway, it took me almost a week to realize that I couldn't smell anything, anything at all. You name it, I couldn't smell it. My doctor told me that my olfactory nerves had been completely severed by the severity (lol) of my concussion and he honestly couldn't tell me if they were going to reattach to the point where I could ever smell again. Here's the kicker, I couldn't notice a single difference in the way I taste food. It was since then the day that I began smoking cigars (bought a Punch from the local smoke shop and said "damn this is good!") But as I have been getting more and more into the hobby of collecting and smoking cigars it has really begun to make me think about my affliction in new and different ways. When I hear you and other more seasoned cigar smokers talking about developing your palate and cycling smoke through your nose I begin to wonder: 1) Is this why I prefer stronger cigars even though I am a novice smoker? 2) Is there something I am missing from each and every cigar I have? 3)Perhaps my olfactory sensors work when I am blowing out and not when I am sucking in? Because I have tried the retrohale (as I have heard it called) with results that brought tears to my eyes. You seem to be a very knowledgeable chap and I was wondering if you had an opinion on this, anything I could benefit from knowing, or maybe even some suggestions.
Thanks for your opinions And there is some good news, recently I have been noticing more and more things that I can just barely smell. For instance, after chopping the basil for the omelet I just ate I took a big whif of it and got just a teeny bit of basil smell, so it appears that things are slowly on the mend. The optomistic cigar lover inside of me wants me to believe it might even be the cigars that are helping my recovery. As if they are giving my senses some sort of exercise to make them stronger. You are right that palate developement isn't key to cigar smoking and as long as I keep enjoying tasty cigars and continue to slowly regain my sense of smell I'll be one happy guy. You should also know that besides the smell thing I made a full recovery long ago so I am still physically and mentally (some may argue) whole and unchanged.
I really appreciate the advice you put out on these boards, I am trying to develop my palate, and will definitely try the through the nose trick. Us noobs need advice like this
Kuzi please name a couple of stiks you consider full flavored and a couple you consider full bodied...and if you decide to take this mission...maybe a couple that are both full flavored and full bodied.
Excellent..thanx Kuzi..gonna give the 8-5-8 and the Camacho Diploma a try..had been questioning whether to give the 8-5-8 a shot, hear lots about it...
Hey Kuzi, on the El Cobre, I know it's one of your favs, but I don't remember it being easy to find. I did a quick search and found a few places selling them. Is it still the same blend that was onced (I think a few times) praised by your palate?
Cool, I couldn't find anything on a change in blend, but I noticed that they are easier to find now or maybe they've just gotten more popular and more available, so I had lingering thoughts that it may be a new blend. Just thought I would check with the master. Thanks Kuzi.
Even if the El Cobre is a new blend, it's still a pretty good cigar, and the price isn't bad either. I bought a bundle of the toros probably about 18 months ago, and they've been consistently better with each one I smoke, so I can only assume the time is doing them good.
I've reached a transition in my palate development where I'm no longer trying to sample everything, but refine what I like the most in cigars so that (as kuzi and others have said) every cigar is a special occasion because I know it's that good. Not that I'm not going to sample and try new cigars every chance I get, but that I'm focusing my humidor stock on cigars that I know I really like AND still sampling new cigars.
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Kuzi, the second I started reading this thread it really peaked my interest, because I have personal experience with the innerworkings of the nasal passasge, the olfactory sensors, and the chemistry of smell itself. Why you ask? Well a little over a year ago, I was ran over by a car and I came out of it with a fractured skull and a severe concussion (along with some nerve damage in my leg and an aching spine). Anyway, it took me almost a week to realize that I couldn't smell anything, anything at all. You name it, I couldn't smell it. My doctor told me that my olfactory nerves had been completely severed by the severity (lol) of my concussion and he honestly couldn't tell me if they were going to reattach to the point where I could ever smell again. Here's the kicker, I couldn't notice a single difference in the way I taste food. It was since then the day that I began smoking cigars (bought a Punch from the local smoke shop and said "damn this is good!") But as I have been getting more and more into the hobby of collecting and smoking cigars it has really begun to make me think about my affliction in new and different ways. When I hear you and other more seasoned cigar smokers talking about developing your palate and cycling smoke through your nose I begin to wonder: 1) Is this why I prefer stronger cigars even though I am a novice smoker? 2) Is there something I am missing from each and every cigar I have? 3)Perhaps my olfactory sensors work when I am blowing out and not when I am sucking in? Because I have tried the retrohale (as I have heard it called) with results that brought tears to my eyes. You seem to be a very knowledgeable chap and I was wondering if you had an opinion on this, anything I could benefit from knowing, or maybe even some suggestions.
Thanks,
Tyler Gervais