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  • LukoLuko Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,004
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
  • madurofanmadurofan Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,152
    I've spent most of the day reading proposed policies and plans since I have to submit my absentee ballot here in the next day or so. I don't know how anyone can really get anything from either one's proposed 'policy'. Both of their proposed financial plans are complete BS and not only are they unrealistic but neither would make it through the House/Senate. I'll talk more about McCain's bc unlike Obama he actually has a proposed plan. Obama has about three different loads of crap none of which make any sense at all the biggest of which is his plan to raise taxes on business and the wealthiest Americans. The raise in taxes on businesses will never make it through the House or Senate, you talking about something that would negatively effective the economy, thats it. Then there is McCain's proposal to income tax benefits, another thing that will never make it through Congress. These are key components of these respective 'plans' and both show just how ignorant these 'plans' really are.
  • ScramblerScrambler Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 746
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
    And yet he got it more right than Palin did in that same article.
  • LukoLuko Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,004
    urbino:
    And yet he got it more right than Palin did in that same article.
    is there really a degree of rightness in that answer? And if so, you'd think he should get it 100 percent right, what with being in the Senate for more than 30 years.
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
    No time to reply right now. I'll try to write one later. Short version: yes, he should've gotten it 100%, but yes, there are degrees of rightness in that answer.
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
    PuroFreak:
    And yes, that woman no how big or small of a part she plays, she IS still infact a member of the Obama Camp. PERIOD! That is a fact, she works directly for them.
    Apparently, it's hard for either side to find good help.
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
  • ScramblerScrambler Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 746
    phobicsquirrel:
    I would say she's a joke, she doesn't even know the VP's job
    Neither does Biden, and he's served with how many VP's in the Senate? It's crazy that Biden gets a pass on every gaffe he makes while Palin is picked apart.
    phobicsquirrel:
    she doesn't answer questions
    She does exactly what all politicans are trained to do, some just do it better than others. Bill Clinton was a master at answering the question he wanted to answer instead of the question asked.
    phobicsquirrel:
    she totally screwed over her alaskan town, and she certainly doesn't have the best interest of this nation.
    These are very subjective.
    phobicsquirrel:
    the guy probably won't make it a full 4 years without any medical incidents. and do you really want palin in the hot seat?
    I would much rather have the chance that Palin ends up as President than the certainty that Obama will. Neither are ready, neither have the experience. At least Palin does have some executive experience. I can't believe that either way we will be electing a Senator as President, recent history has heavily favored Governors over legislators.
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
  • ScramblerScrambler Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 746
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
    You don't think Joe would need to know how to make a budget, that is, decide where to allocate the company's spending? Set strategic direction? Pick the people to delegate to? That sort of thing?
  • ScramblerScrambler Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 746
    I do think he would need to know those things, but I think running even a small company would better prepare him to do that than having technical knowledge of the product.
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
  • ScramblerScrambler Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 746
    The example we're talking about here would be an extreme case. Ideally the person applying to run the company has SOME idea of the industry, but I think it's easier and quicker to learn the nuts and bolts than it is to learn the management skills and experience.
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
  • dutyjedutyje Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,263
    Did I miss something? Since when does Joe the Plumber have any experience whatsoever running a plumbing business -- or a lemonade stand, for that matter? Last I heard he worked for a guy who once casually mentioned that maybe someday he'd sell him the business which isn't currently even making half of what Joe the Plumber claimed it was making when he confronted Obama.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • ScramblerScrambler Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 746
    dutyje:
    scrambler:
    Ideally the person applying to run the company has SOME idea of the industry
    I think that was his point
    Yes, but my point is that while having both executive and practical experience would be ideal, if I had to choose one or the other, I'd choose the candidate with the executive experience.
    dutyje:
    Did I miss something? Since when does Joe the Plumber have any experience whatsoever running a plumbing business -- or a lemonade stand, for that matter? Last I heard he worked for a guy who once casually mentioned that maybe someday he'd sell him the business which isn't currently even making half of what Joe the Plumber claimed it was making when he confronted Obama.
    We aren't specifically talking about "the" Joe the Plumber, we are talking about the idea of "a" Joe the Plumber as an analogy in the discussion about which VP candidate sucks more.
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
    Scrambler:
    We aren't specifically talking about "the" Joe the Plumber, we are talking about the idea of "a" Joe the Plumber as an analogy in the discussion about which VP candidate sucks more.
    When you put it that way, I have to admit that, if it were up to my imagination, Sarah definitely, ahem, sucks more.
  • ScramblerScrambler Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 746
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
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