Western---You do realzie that between your sarcastic and uncalled for retorts, you youurself said what the constitution allows. It does not respect a national religion, but allows freedom of religion and for people to assemble for that said reason. You stated they were violent as a whole, this is your opinion not a fact and therefore not breaking the law. So by your logic, would it not be anti-american not to allow this mosque??? I am not saying I am for it or against it, but please lets not even talk about "these mongrels" and what they have done by bending the rules of this country after the YEARS AND YEARS of benfit economically to christian religions, schools, projects, and even tax free status of "christian" theme parks. To be respected and your opinion valued you have to be consistent across the board.
All I'll say is you should go to a mosque and conversate with it's inhabitants maybe take a few of your gay friends or maybe really feminist lady friends and talk about how great america is and all the freedoms we have here... afterall it's a peaceful tolerent culture.
And with that... you can just be ignored. You do more to harm your own credibility with remarks like that then anyone else could do by disagreeing with you. LMAO.
Western---You do realzie that between your sarcastic and uncalled for retorts, you youurself said what the constitution allows. It does not respect a national religion, but allows freedom of religion and for people to assemble for that said reason. You stated they were violent as a whole, this is your opinion not a fact and therefore not breaking the law. So by your logic, would it not be anti-american not to allow this mosque??? I am not saying I am for it or against it, but please lets not even talk about "these mongrels" and what they have done by bending the rules of this country after the YEARS AND YEARS of benfit economically to christian religions, schools, projects, and even tax free status of "christian" theme parks. To be respected and your opinion valued you have to be consistent across the board.
All I'll say is you should go to a mosque and conversate with it's inhabitants maybe take a few of your gay friends or maybe really feminist lady friends and talk about how great america is and all the freedoms we have here... afterall it's a peaceful tolerent culture.
And with that... you can just be ignored. You do more to harm your own credibility with remarks like that then anyone else could do by disagreeing with you. LMAO.
I was thinking of trying to respond with something meaningful...however I think i will follow your lead Laker and just not even try. Not really worth responding to.
Come on Laker...you need to read again. Sometimes I think you don't read the posts...too busy focusing in on what your gonna reply back with. If you read it again its replies to you, vulchor, and betasyn. But you are right...you bring out the conservative in me...I can't help it...when I see your posts I click on it to keep you level-headed...where's the Smiley face thing... And I think progressives/liberals in general are bringing out conservatives like me in droves....thank you.
I worked with a strict Muslim. He was Pakistani. He had to pray at least five times during his shift. He also ate Halal only meals and had some real big hang-ups when it came to dealing with women. I really didn't understand how this way of life could transcend over the requirements of our job (law enforcement). I would ask him questions alot and he was pretty cooperative with his responses, but I never got the feeling that he cared too much about my way of life or my opinions. He had kind of a "my-way-or-the-highway" kind of approach. I'm not saying he was a radical Muslim and he didn't proselytize, but he didn't seem very tolerant of anybody else's way of life. He also had a really deep hatred for Hindu Indians that he didn't try to hide very well. He didn't feel the need to explain it to me. Almost as if I should know why he hates Hindu Indians. I know this is just one example of a Muslim and there are probably over 3 million in this country, but it was one of my only everyday close encounters to share with the class.
In my line of work, I deal with many cultures and religions and have even gone so far as to remove my shoes to search a mosque where a burglar alarm had gone off. I have had to take reports for and arrest a man who lit his wife on fire because he caught her cheating or stealing (which I found out later is the norm in his culture). I've dealt with children who at the age of 7 or 8 can't read or write because the parents refuse to send them to "Westernized" schools. We literally bend over backwards to be accepting and tolerant of their cultures and religious beliefs. But the law is the law. And sometimes I feel like they're not very "tolerant" or accepting of our basic laws that separate us from uncivilized society. I might be very wrong on this, but this is my personal experience. Not just stuff I've read on the internet or heard on the radio.......
I guess I don't know what makes a "good" Muslim or a "bad" Muslim. There are so many things i still don't know about the Muslim faith and culture.
Really good point about news from around the world. I lived in Germany twice, for a total of about 5 years all told, and had the opportunity to watch the British news, also the German news, which was more difficult for me to follow, (due to my poor German language skills) but interesting enough to hold my attention and get me to trying to find the same information from American sources. We are actually quite insulated over here, we are fed what "they" want us to hear to a much larger extent than most folks would believe. I wouldn't have believed it, if I hadn't lived it myself.
I can't talk for inside the US but there have been several Muslim leaders talking about how these radicals are trying to hijack the Muslim faith. There have been interviews with TV personalities and articles in the Newspapers. Maybe because they are not actually in the states they feel safer about speaking out, I don't know.
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