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  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    All points I can respect Kuzi---EXCEPT please know I wasnt calling you a racist or going after you in any way in anything I wrote. It was simply my opinion as a blanket statement and had ABSOLUTLY nothing to do or no direction toward you or Puro. As much as the three of us go at it I truly enjoy the bickering and debating with you both. Nothing personal AT ALL
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Vulchor:
    All points I can respect Kuzi---EXCEPT please know I wasnt calling you a racist or going after you in any way in anything I wrote. It was simply my opinion as a blanket statement and had ABSOLUTLY nothing to do or no direction toward you or Puro. As much as the three of us go at it I truly enjoy the bickering and debating with you both. Nothing personal AT ALL
    Oh yea well you are ugly! lol Kidding, honestly I agree with a lot of what you said but as Kuzi pointed out, because the insurance companies aren't perfect doesn't mean the only solution is government control. Government control will only increase cost and cut the amount of treatment most people can get. I have watched many many of the protests at the town hall meetings, and they are packed full of Vets and elderly, (and some hillbillies that look like they don't have two nickles to rub together) who were in no way yuppies or would know a silver spoon from a spork from Popeye's.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Onoly thing is I am not sure it woul raise price----but I concede there is no good answer.....and please, no dissin Popeyes......mmmmm dats good chikin
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    PuroFreak:
    One thing that would honestly reduce the cost of healthcare in this country would be TORT reform. But the Democrats can't do that because it will piss off the trial lawyers, many of whom donate a large portion of money to the party.
    i agree with this. but TORT reform alone will not solve the problem.
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    kuzi16:
    PuroFreak:
    One thing that would honestly reduce the cost of healthcare in this country would be TORT reform. But the Democrats can't do that because it will piss off the trial lawyers, many of whom donate a large portion of money to the party.
    i agree with this. but TORT reform alone will not solve the problem.
    Oh lord no that isn't all it will take, thats why I said "one thing." There are so many things that would cut the cost of medical treatment without more government control. TORT would do a lot to help though. There are so many options out there to fix this problem that I just don't understand why people think bigger government is the only option.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    I disagree totally that we are close to being a color blind society. In addition blanket statements are true, generally, for a good percentage of people and I stick to my statement on that being my true feelings. I believe the news stories about the rise in hate/extremist groups in this country of late are proof to my point....unless just written off as another liberal media bias. BTW, I dont believe I ever used the word racist in my postings---I dont think its an issue of overt racism as the desire and comfort level for the white controlled status quo.
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Vulchor:
    I disagree totally that we are close to being a color blind society. In addition blanket statements are true, generally, for a good percentage of people and I stick to my statement on that being my true feelings. I believe the news stories about the rise in hate/extremist groups in this country of late are proof to my point....unless just written off as another liberal media bias. BTW, I dont believe I ever used the word racist in my postings---I dont think its an issue of overt racism as the desire and comfort level for the white controlled status quo.
    The problem with the news stories about hate groups is that they don't focus on the actual groups they are speaking of, they are speaking about the report prduced by the DHLS which didn't quote facts about the rise of such groups, but was a report speculating that these groups could be on the rise due to the election. This doesn't tell me anything. Hate groups have been around since the time began and nothing will ever change that. There are always going to be fringe extremists out there no matter how tollerant society as a whole becomes. But once again, this has nothing what so ever to do with this healthcare bill. It isn't a racial issue, it is a government control issue. If it was a race issue then Hillarycare wouldn't have bombed like it did.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
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  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
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  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Well first of all we both know that this bill has a lot less to do with healthcare and much more to do with power and control. It is the same way it always is with the democrats, and the republicans as well. The difference is how they go about it. The democrats push for power by raising taxes and forcing people to be more and more dependant on the government. They want to make people who want to take care of themselves and cast them as *** just because they don't want to rely on the government. They have done this for years and the current administrations arrogance has cause this policy to grow more than it has at any point in American history. This is a bad thing because unless something major happens, they will take over the healthcare industry and there will be nothing any of us can do about it. This is a good thing in a way, because if they fail to take over, the American people will be able to see what liberalism truely stands for.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • FourtotheflushFourtotheflush Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,555
    Everyone doesnt need car insurance or even need a car.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    but the article does point out what has been happening in the medical industry at a level that many can understand. its not meant to be a "perfect match" its supposed to be an analogy so that others can see whats going on and has gone on.
  • cabinetmakercabinetmaker Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,561
    Fourtotheflush:
    Everyone doesnt need car insurance or even need a car.
    Everyone does not need health insurance either.
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  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    I have seen plans from libertatians, republicans, and even from other democrats that were all so much better than the current plan for a public option. The attack method they are using is that the "right wing nuts" just want to keep things the same, but that isn't true. The public option is not only worse than what we have now, but is much much worse than most of the other plans out there. The problem is finding these plans because the media simply isn't covering them. They aren't on the table so they don't get ratings. The media is much more concerned with people being captivated by their broadcasts than being informed by them. And that goes for every news network out there.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
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