I ant argue if that is true or not GMill, becauseI dont really know (noe does anyone) how much either will help the economy. But I do know that no where in our constitution does it give the president or congress the right to make such plans available or manipulate the markets in any such way.
I ant argue if that is true or not GMill, becauseI dont really know (noe does anyone) how much either will help the economy. But I do know that no where in our constitution does it give the president or congress the right to make such plans available or manipulate the markets in any such way.
Well, Obama is out to get rid of all the Constitutional "hindrances" to the power of the presidency, and all the pesky freedoms granted to the people and the states not granted to the fed. So, I guess he's making an end-run around the Constitution for the time being..
To that point, I agree 100% GMill. However to Cabinets point, while I can say that power is becoming an issue with Obama-----what administration has power not been an issue with??? I dont want to get into aa Bush/Obama thing.....but parts of the Patriot Act, wire tapping, ect. were not exactly granting more power to the people.
I agree with that, Vulcher. It's not a republican/democrat thiong, it's a progressive/the rest of us thing. Progressives are polluting both parties to the extent that there are n o real differences between them.
To that point, I agree 100% GMill. However to Cabinets point, while I can say that power is becoming an issue with Obama-----what administration has power not been an issue with??? I dont want to get into aa Bush/Obama thing.....but parts of the Patriot Act, wire tapping, ect. were not exactly granting more power to the people.
I agree with you totally here. What I have an issue with is people that think the government was evil for the patriot act, I do not agree with the patriot act, but think this health care plan and cap and trade and all the other government taxes are great things. It's the same thing just for a different cause. It is taking power away from the people and handing it over to the government.
I think Obama will keep his promise 100% to NOT raise our taxes by one single dime. Severl thousand dimes for certain, but not one single one. I mean come on, if you can take one, why not take them all?
obama promised greater government "goodness" at the highest and largest levels, increasing the benefits it will provide. Thomas Jefferson tried to warn Americans that, "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."
Also speaking of hypocrits, some of them who are in the mold of retirees and babyboomers who feel as though they have given something extra special to society and now want a nice spot on the land----and also sit on groups for Tea Parties and scream during meetings about wanting govt out of healthcare.....What would these people do if we took away their medicare and medicaid supplements to their medicare benefits for large hospital bills???Something tells me those programs dont qualify under the same idea as other govt. health care paid programs they so viahmently protest.
Also speaking of hypocrits, some of them who are in the mold of retirees and babyboomers who feel as though they have given something extra special to society and now want a nice spot on the land----and also sit on groups for Tea Parties and scream during meetings about wanting govt out of healthcare.....What would these people do if we took away their medicare and medicaid supplements to their medicare benefits for large hospital bills???Something tells me those programs dont qualify under the same idea as other govt. health care paid programs they so viahmently protest.
Thats why I don't rely on Medicare, or Social Security. As a matter of fact I don't pay into Social Security. I pay in the the Texas Municipal Retirement System and a HSA account. I don't want to have to rely on the government when my time for retirement comes. I honestly don't want them involved in my healthcare. I can decide what is best for me and I am trying to plan accordingly because at this point in time, I still have that right.
Actually JPCLot, Bush Administration did want people to report any suspicious activity of their neighbors, ect. and *** Cheney in particular. Of course Pelosi had about half a dozen other things she couldve asked for impeachment on----but thats neither here nor there. I think the simple fact should be pointed out that, at least it seems, that anyone who holds the office of the president is a rather power hungry fellow who wants as little real dissent as possible-----despite what their politican side may say.
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