My issue with this story isn't so much the Republican VS Democrat thing, because I really don't care, but if this whole thing was to create jobs, then why wasn't the money spent in the areas with higher unemployment? And why was it mostly spent in higher income areas?
if this whole thing was to create jobs, then why wasn't the money spent in the areas with higher unemployment? And why was it mostly spent in higher income areas?
Again Kuzi---I am not calling you are anyone specifically racist. I do understand your need to be the center of attention and feel your stance is always the enlightened and correct one----but this was not talking about you, and suprisingly to you I am sure...not all posts are about you. Dont even get me started on the politicians you are defending and violating the rights of the indivdual. You as someone who claims to believe indivdual rights trump all other things should d@mn well know it is the job of govt. to take away your rights. Thats for Repubs and Dems. We are born free and politicians and govt. and laws simply limit what rights we have. To say that this tax idea is any different violation of rights than tapping into a citizens phone line without warrant is absurd. Dont even say the two are not the same and I am deflecting here, because that is simply a cop out for not having to defend any points which you cannot. And again back to my original point, I didnt call any specific person a racist....I am referring to the millions of bumpkins who blindly follow the republicans for uninformed and moral views instead of knowing sh!t about the facts.....if you can asy that is not what many voters are like then you obviously live in more of a box than I thought.
Rare post for me in this forum. I really think that our options in each election keep getting worse and worse and worse. I'm sick of both parties because neither have produced a candidate that I just really wanted to get out and vote for. There's gotta be some better options out there somewhere.
I want a candidate who is conservative on the national budget and the programs, doesn't cut national defense funding, and is liberal on the moral issues. I'm pretty much a Republican, but I'm not because a woman's right to choose and gay rights are very important to me. As long as the Republican Party sides on their side of the fence on those issues, I'm not voting republican. It's really as simple as that for me.
I want a candidate who is conservative on the national budget and the programs, doesn't cut national defense funding, and is liberal on the moral issues. I'm pretty much a Republican, but I'm not because a woman's right to choose and gay rights are very important to me. As long as the Republican Party sides on their side of the fence on those issues, I'm not voting republican. It's really as simple as that for me.
While I agree with this more than I do not----Its very sad to me to see uninformed people thinking there is so much charity and ways for people to better themselves out there without any govt assistance. As someone who works very closely with many non-profits, charities, ect. this could not further from the truth. Also, it glosses over, or simply neglects, the elderly, handicapped, mentally challenged, those with mental health issues...and that just names a few---who are unable for any number of reasons to help themselves with the "pick up by the bootstraps" approach. But I suppose it is easier to claim laziness and use blanket statements for all people who are poor or suffering than to give a few pennies of our taxes.
I dont take issue with that Kuz...I agree to a point. My issue is with the idea "there are plenty of places there to help people, they just need to help themselves, there's so much welfare already, etc." whenin actuality this couldnt be further from the truth.
Thats a great story suspect, and I was not directing it at you specifically. I was trying to make a point that often we as a people have a tendency to make some blanket statements and when it comes to being poor or needing "welfare" often the groups I mentioned get placed into the same category with the lazy a$$ who would rather get food stamps and apply for disability than buy their cigarettes with money they earn.
Thats a great story suspect, and I was not directing it at you specifically. I was trying to make a point that often we as a people have a tendency to make some blanket statements and when it comes to being poor or needing "welfare" often the groups I mentioned get placed into the same category with the lazy a$$ who would rather get food stamps and apply for disability than buy their cigarettes with money they earn.
I agree with you Vulchor. I do it myself sometimes. I definately believe that the care of the disabled and handicap is neccessary. I do also believe that the welfare system needs a major overhaul to ensure that honest people are not mixed with the dishonest. When a person sits on welfare for the majority of their adult life, I start to believe that they're just lazy and not "less fortunate." I'd really like to see some massive improvements in the welfare department.
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." - Ben Franklin
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"Democracy is a form of government that cannot long survive, for as soon as the people learn that they have a voice in the fiscal policies of the government, they will move to vote for themselves all the money in the treasury, and bankrupt the nation." - Karl Marx
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." - Ben Franklin
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"Democracy is a form of government that cannot long survive, for as soon as the people learn that they have a voice in the fiscal policies of the government, they will move to vote for themselves all the money in the treasury, and bankrupt the nation." - Karl Marx
That second quote is correct, that is why our nation was not formed as a democracy, but as a Republic as Ben Franklin said in the first quote. There is a difference. I do see your point though and you are right.
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