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  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
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  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Ok Phobic, you say Sept 11th happened because the people didn't have the balls to rush them? What about the people on Flight 93? They did fight, they all still died. And if you want to take that risk thats fine, but I don't want my family in more danger because your too important to be bothered. Look at Richard Reed... Smuggled explosives on the plane in his shoes. Not to mention he is the only man ever so ugly that he won't even laid in prison! haha But seriously, I understand that there is no way to totally ensure safety, but why make things as easy as possible for these people? Because as you said yourself, they will do it again. Oh, and the shampoos and liquids will be allowed on the planes again early next year thanks to new technology. It's funny you have a problem paying any extra tax because of 9/11 safety measures when you buy an airline ticket, but you have no problems with paying for Obama's social programs...
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    PuroFreak:
    It's funny you have a problem paying any extra tax because of 9/11 safety measures when you buy an airline ticket, but you have no problems with paying for Obama's social programs...
    i never even thought about that. nice
  • rusiriusrusirius Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 564
    PuroFreak:
    It's funny you have a problem paying any extra tax because of 9/11 safety measures when you buy an airline ticket, but you have no problems with paying for Obama's social programs...
    Frankly I'd rather spend billions of dollars getting even a fraction of that amount into the hands of those who truely do need it versus spending billions of dollars so the execs at AIG don't miss their next salon appointment...
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    rusirius:
    PuroFreak:
    It's funny you have a problem paying any extra tax because of 9/11 safety measures when you buy an airline ticket, but you have no problems with paying for Obama's social programs...
    Frankly I'd rather spend billions of dollars getting even a fraction of that amount into the hands of those who truely do need it versus spending billions of dollars so the execs at AIG don't miss their next salon appointment...
    I don't think billions should go from the government to AIG or anyone else in the form of handouts. I do believe defense spending and air traffic safety are things worth spending money on. Those are things that allow us to work as a capitalist society. The fact that Obama wants to cut our missile defense program is one of the things that scare me the most. While Iran and N. Korea are developing longer range missiles everyday we need to be more and more aware of our needs to protect ourselves. But if you ask President Elect Obama, "Iran and North Korea are tiny countries that pose no real threat to us."
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
    Picking up on one thread in Puro's comment -- it's one that's come up a few times -- why is it we're so worried a nuclear Iran or N. Korea would attack us? Is it because we think they're sufficiently irrational that they wouldn't be deterred by our gargantuanly-huger-than-they-will-ever-dream-of nuclear response?
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  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    urbino:
    Picking up on one thread in Puro's comment -- it's one that's come up a few times -- why is it we're so worried a nuclear Iran or N. Korea would attack us? Is it because we think they're sufficiently irrational that they wouldn't be deterred by our gargantuanly-huger-than-they-will-ever-dream-of nuclear response?
    If Obama has his way and we cut our nuclear arsenal that way he wants to then yes, they would see us as a weak target. Go watch the video I posted on the last page where he says he will cut our missile defense system and nuclear arsenal.
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
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  • WafflebobWafflebob Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 118
    PuroFreak:
    urbino:
    Picking up on one thread in Puro's comment -- it's one that's come up a few times -- why is it we're so worried a nuclear Iran or N. Korea would attack us? Is it because we think they're sufficiently irrational that they wouldn't be deterred by our gargantuanly-huger-than-they-will-ever-dream-of nuclear response?
    If Obama has his way and we cut our nuclear arsenal that way he wants to then yes, they would see us as a weak target. Go watch the video I posted on the last page where he says he will cut our missile defense system and nuclear arsenal.
    I think North Korea is crazy enough to do it whether we could turn the country to a sheet of glass or not. Their glorious leader seems to have a warped sense of reality. As far as Iran goes, I don't think they are crazy enough to just attack us, even if we cut our nuclear arsenal. They know what they are doing and they know they can't beat us. The main issue there is Israel. Iran and Israel are at each other's throats and Iran knows that if either of them makes a major move, the US is going to come in swinging. Their only hope at all is to build up an arsenal of WMD's fearsome enough to either scare us off, or cripple us. They ARE crazy enough to do that.
  • urbinourbino Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,517
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  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Good point Kuz. I wasn't saying we should develop more, but we shouldn't scale back our nuclear arsenal. I do think putting some of the current stock into newer more modern weapons would be a good move. I mean seriously what good would come from reducing our current levels of nukes?
  • WafflebobWafflebob Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 118
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  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Once again, why is everyone so upset by spending money to keep us safe but has no problem paying for Obama's social programs... It makes absolutely no sense to me...
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    PuroFreak:
    Once again, why is everyone so upset by spending money to keep us safe but has no problem paying for Obama's social programs... It makes absolutely no sense to me...
    great question
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
    10 or 10000 nukes won't really make anyone safe. All it would take is one nuke and that's it. The fallout alone would be disastrous, especially at the megaton levels these days, though I highly doubt that any nuke other than our own would be as powerful, but if one of ours or many of ours were used on us that would be a different story. Basically any nuke hitting any place would be bad, and for radicals such as the tali-ban the "thought" process of what if, and what after doesn't really work the same as say, Russia, China, and any other large powers. The whole idea of stock-piling thousands of nukes is just as retarded as the whole "cold war" quagmire. Though you could through the "we have more ..." in the pot, along with locking down airports, home land security, tapping phones on civilians, having cameras on every corner, using GPS on cell phones to track people, inventing software to use on city street surveillance systems to statistically gauge on if someone will steel, do a crime, or engage in terrorist activity, they all are used to make the masses feel "safe" while slowly make the masses into a categorized mob that is watched, traced, and basically turned into the exact opposite of what our constitution gives us. Though I'm sure no one agrees with me..
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  • gmill880gmill880 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,947
    i'll see if my employer will pay me in cigars and let the gov'ment pay my bills!!!irrational exuberance (sp) mr greenspan where are you ?
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