If I'm not mistaken, health outcomes here and in the UK are about the same. What's different is that we spend about 3 times as much as they do to get that level of care, and if the current trend continues, by the year 2025 (or something like that) health care costs will be greater than our entire GDP. People can differ on solutions, but leaving things as they are is not an option.
I figure this is as good a place to post this as any. Just went by my CPA's office and picked up the wife and I's 2008 tax extortion today. Mother@!%##$%@!#$&**# rat basturds sob %$##@!@!%#$#&##&%$# er's!!!
Though I am not as knowledgeable as say, Urbster I can say that the Oregon health plan is fantastic. I am not a part of it since I make too much (yeah like I make 100k..) but my best friends GF is since she has two kids and they aren't married for this reason as well as the money she gets for school right now but on to the health care. She gets all of her medical paid for along with her kids. She had both kids in one of the best hospitals here FREE, had terrific treatment and has a regular doctor and all of it is free. She's fininshing up dental school right now and if it wasn't for the help of the state she'd be F'd. My friend makes good money, we work at the same place so we aren't bad off but with the amount of money they would have had to pay for all of his GF's medical they'd be totally screwed. The state doesn't tell her what she has to have done, or where to go. She can go to any hospital or doctor's office that accepts the plan and most do. So i don't know where you get the idea that if there was a Govt run healthcare that it would dictate what you can and cannot have done Kuzi. I mean yeah, I agree that more power to Govt is not always a good idea but you would still have the option to have additional insurance like Urby said. Fact is that the Govt doesn't or isn't out to make a buck off of you, private companies are. Why is it that there hasn't been any cures for diseases in the last 60 or so years? I mean if half of the money went to cures rather than to pills or things to slow down diseases we'd have the cure for some cancers or even all of them, maybe AIDS... or the bird flue.. On the other note, my friends GF has a sister who is very sick. her sister and family lives in Cali and right now her sister has just gone threw two types of cancer treatment, and now is getting a bone marrow transplant. So basically right now she is being kept in a hospital in a "clean" room where she is basically quarantined due to the total breakdown of her immune system. I don't know the exact cost of this, but her family is declaring Bankruptcy over it and are in the process of selling their home to just pay some of the expenses. Now if we had a national health program they wouldn't be in this problem. It's just an example. I also have a few friends who have had family members denied coverage from their insurance company because they have had a history of their medical problem and now they can't get insurance because of the denial from one company. How is this a good thing? It's just as bad as the F'in credit system.
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