You two really are out of it aren't you? I mean let see both of those presidents you mentioned Puro both put this country in considerable debt and destroyed manufacturing in this country. Not to mention the F'ing decade war we are going into with Iraq (wait the war lasted like 1 day)... So the guy who comes in and is trying to fix stuff gets all the blame. Huge companies which have squandered and screwed up royally ask for money is given money with no strings attached by a administration that has screwed this country more ways than a used prostitute and then asks for more, doesn't open up credit markets, buy up bad mortgages, help people negotiate their mortgages to stay in their homes... No they buy other banks, then give each other parties and bonus's. Well it's the Govt's Job to protect people and the interest of the Country. AIG is HUGE and employ's millions of people. Letting them fail may be my first thought but in reality what Obama's admin is doing is very well the best thing to do. Oh yeah let's keep letting them do what they have been doing. I'm just going in circles... Let's just hope, for GOD's sake let's hope Sara Pain/*** Cheney 2012 gets elected, they'll fix everything....
Obama can't do anything by himself. If you are dissatisfied take a long hard look at who represents your state. Learn as much as you can about the people in your district and who they are what they stand for. Become politically active if your able to (this can be as simple as handing out vote for ------- cards at voting booths to actually volunteering time for your candidates campaign ) . Yes, this takes time away from your family and job and leisure time but if your really as worked up as some of you seem to be it will be time well spent. If you can't contribute time contribute financially to the candidate that represents your views. Do something to really make a difference if your heart and head tell you the country is headed to he-ll in a handbasket. In 2 years Obama can be effectively blocked from taking over/ruining the USA as some suggest he is trying to do and he will have 2 years left as basically a lame duck president. If we the people deem it so we CAN make it happen.
Obama can't do anything by himself. If you are dissatisfied take a long hard look at who represents your state. Learn as much as you can about the people in your district and who they are what they stand for. Become politically active if your able to (this can be as simple as handing out vote for ------- cards at voting booths to actually volunteering time for your candidates campaign ) . Yes, this takes time away from your family and job and leisure time but if your really as worked up as some of you seem to be it will be time well spent. If you can't contribute time contribute financially to the candidate that represents your views. Do something to really make a difference if your heart and head tell you the country is headed to he-ll in a handbasket. In 2 years Obama can be effectively blocked from taking over/ruining the USA as some suggest he is trying to do and he will have 2 years left as basically a lame duck president. If we the people deem it so we CAN make it happen.
You are correct up to a point... When did Congress vote to remove the head of GM?? If I remember correctly they didn't, and Obama and Geithner were the ones that got rid of him... or had him step down as as the headlines read.
Obama can't do anything by himself. If you are dissatisfied take a long hard look at who represents your state. Learn as much as you can about the people in your district and who they are what they stand for. Become politically active if your able to (this can be as simple as handing out vote for ------- cards at voting booths to actually volunteering time for your candidates campaign ) . Yes, this takes time away from your family and job and leisure time but if your really as worked up as some of you seem to be it will be time well spent. If you can't contribute time contribute financially to the candidate that represents your views. Do something to really make a difference if your heart and head tell you the country is headed to he-ll in a handbasket. In 2 years Obama can be effectively blocked from taking over/ruining the USA as some suggest he is trying to do and he will have 2 years left as basically a lame duck president. If we the people deem it so we CAN make it happen.
didn't work for bush, I mean would have been nice. But really people in congress or the senate are way out of touch. I think there was an interview with a congresswoman from Florida who when asked about the SCHIP tax and how it will effect business's in Florida (such as cigar rollers and shops) she seemed to care about it but not enough to tax it and make people pay loads more just to enjoy something for the sake of children. I remember calling both my senators' got their damn secretary's and 3 of my congressmen and go no-where when the shcip thing was circling. I talked with he owner of my local shop and he said that him and a few dozen other tobacco shops petitioned for a NO vote but didn't really worked, well I think one of my congressman did vote no. But still...
And while I'm in the Rant Thread another thing I would like to get off my chest. All the beetchin' and moanin about the greed of the banking system and the insurance companys and the automakers etc etc. And the poor people that lost money to the wallstreet types. You know what , when these companys stock prices were flyng high and people ( investors, people with 401k's and your everyday workin' Joe) were taking in the tens of thousands in profits and building their huge retirement nesteggs and buying boats,2nd homes and every other imaginable luxury I didn't hear a damn one of them ask is this investment safe ? Do I really know what I'm invested in? Did I do my homework? do I really give a rats a$$ if its borderline illegal if I get to keep all my $hit? Nobody was screamin for checks and balances and investigations when they were MAKING money because they could have cared less. My point is their own glottoness greed allowed a lot of these things to take place...including the bloated salaries and bonuses. Nobody cared the CEO's were getting theirs as long as the little guy got his slice of the pie. Hows that pie taste now .....At some point people have to take responsibility for their own actions instead of looking for someone to always blame.
And while I'm in the Rant Thread another thing I would like to get off my chest. All the beetchin' and moanin about the greed of the banking system and the insurance companys and the automakers etc etc. And the poor people that lost money to the wallstreet types. You know what , when these companys stock prices were flyng high and people ( investors, people with 401k's and your everyday workin' Joe) were taking in the tens of thousands in profits and building their huge retirement nesteggs and buying boats,2nd homes and every other imaginable luxury I didn't hear a damn one of them ask is this investment safe ? Do I really know what I'm invested in? Did I do my homework? do I really give a rats a$$ if its borderline illegal if I get to keep all my $hit? Nobody was screamin for checks and balances and investigations when they were MAKING money because they could have cared less. My point is their own glottoness greed allowed a lot of these things to take place...including the bloated salaries and bonuses. Nobody cared the CEO's were getting theirs as long as the little guy got his slice of the pie. Hows that pie taste now .....At some point people have to take responsibility for their own actions instead of looking for someone to always blame.
And to get those second homes and luxuries, they took out loans and maxed out credit cards, and put themselves into massive debt. I really feel that the public should get more of the blame than anyone. I could be speaking out of ignorance on this, but that's the perception I get.
And while I'm in the Rant Thread another thing I would like to get off my chest. All the beetchin' and moanin about the greed of the banking system and the insurance companys and the automakers etc etc. And the poor people that lost money to the wallstreet types. You know what , when these companys stock prices were flyng high and people ( investors, people with 401k's and your everyday workin' Joe) were taking in the tens of thousands in profits and building their huge retirement nesteggs and buying boats,2nd homes and every other imaginable luxury I didn't hear a damn one of them ask is this investment safe ? Do I really know what I'm invested in? Did I do my homework? do I really give a rats a$$ if its borderline illegal if I get to keep all my $hit? Nobody was screamin for checks and balances and investigations when they were MAKING money because they could have cared less. My point is their own glottoness greed allowed a lot of these things to take place...including the bloated salaries and bonuses. Nobody cared the CEO's were getting theirs as long as the little guy got his slice of the pie. Hows that pie taste now .....At some point people have to take responsibility for their own actions instead of looking for someone to always blame.
And to get those second homes and luxuries, they took out loans and maxed out credit cards, and put themselves into massive debt. I really feel that the public should get more of the blame than anyone. I could be speaking out of ignorance on this, but that's the perception I get.
I am with you both on this one!!! I'm all about presonal freedom and the rights of the individual, but the other side of that I believe in is personal responsability. Too many people dig their asses into a hole then expect Uncle Sam to come pull them out and save them from their own mess. It's getting old! The government doesn't owe anyone a goddamned thing. People need to start standing on their own two feet.
I know too many people that just can't man up to their own mistakes, financial or otherwise. To be honest, everyone should've seen this coming. But, it's like gmill said, nobody cared because they were making money too.
I dont think it's so much that you believing in america makes you a threat, its that you dont side with the current political regime that is office. Thats how i see things, and that scares me the most.
I dont think it's so much that you believing in america makes you a threat, its that you dont side with the current political regime that is office. Thats how i see things, and that scares me the most.
I dont think it's so much that you believing in america makes you a threat, its that you dont side with the current political regime that is office. Thats how i see things, and that scares me the most.
That was my point, I don't side with them because I believe in our country. Obviously they only believe in our government.
I don't think your political beliefs classify you as extremist at all, more like normal conservative. I think extremists under the heat are people like Rush Limbaugh who have no desire to help the country progress in any direction, they just want Obama to fail...end of story. That sucks.
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